[FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...

Mon Jul 10 17:06:01 EDT 2017

I can certainly appreciate that machines break.... But we were down a machine for an entire season while being promised one was coming.  I didn't even mention the GB issue... I replied initially to thank you for doing more for MM but instead you want to start attacking me?  You say the frustrations were unfounded but yet you had multiple people expressing the same frustrations.... And people have mentioned helping you move machines and i believe someone even brought up that they'd be happy to place one of their machines but you completely ignored that email and instead decided to jump all over Mario.  Also, I personally never once said anything about the machines not being maintained.... I even brought that up in the previous thread and gave you credit for that but, again, you ignored it and continued complaining because we were trying to address our frustrations. I also never complained about the breakdowns because I understand that these things happen - it was just frustrating when they happened while already being a machine down..... I like MM and I appreciate your work and effort but it's absolutely frustrating that no one can bring up a concern without you feeling completely attacked and, as in this case, I can't even thank you for an improvement and going above and beyond without you taking offense and trying to convince us that we were never frustrated.

On July 10, 2017 4:41:46 PM EDT, Roland Joyal via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>Unfounded. The Stern GB issue was not my fault, as it would be obvious
>to any reasonable person that I was losing money having it sit there
>not operational for a few weeks, so it is in the operator's interest to
>have it running ASAP.  And there have been soooo many machines rotated
>in and out, I lose track.  And the maintenance on the machines was
>never neglected as the managers and I have said and doucumented.  It's
>pinball, a game will go down at any time.  Anyone in the hobby or
>business knows that.  IE: All 3 flippers on a brand new Dialed In at
>VUK have broken down within less than a couple weeks.  And if you want
>to buy a machine from my location then we can rotate even more, so pony
>up the bucks and lets start rotating more, as it is obvious I do not
>control which machines customers buy or how often they buy.  Consider
>the location lucky that they are rotated at all, much less the large
>number that actually has been rotated.  I should not have to, but
>aparrantly I do, remind you this is not the 1970's with tons of public
>pinball accounts to swap games with every year.  You also may not be
>privy to power issues or limitations with the lease or with the
>landlord owners desires, etc, so a person does not have an entitlement
>to a certain number of games in life.  I was happy to have not one, but
>two pinballs, working even half way decent, a Scared Stiff and NBA
>Fastreak, at my local bowling alley many years ago, and dropped many
>bucks in them regularly.  I was grateful.  Apparently some people's
>memory of Johns Place and all the serious issues between power and
>maintenance has faded quickly.  Amusement operators do not want to
>operate pinball, and locations do not want pinball ...it makes little
>money per sq foot of leased space because casual public pinball is
>dead.  And no way would I ever pull a machine from an account that has
>one machine to put temporarily in an account that already has 5 or more
>games just temporarily waiting for GB to be up and running (which was
>an unknown time period simply due to Stern's customer service) so it is
>not fair to consider that neglect either.   -Roland   
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mario via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>Cc: Mario <thisismario007 at aol.com>
>Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 3:54 pm
>Subject: Re: [FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...
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>The forgotten branch of FSPA is how it feels sometimes in there.  Glad
>to see we are getting some variety AND a 7th game.  I FEEL YOUNG
>AGAIN!!
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>Sent from my iPhone
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>On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Bob K Mertz via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
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>I was referring to the frustrations we had being down a machine for a
>season and machines being stale for quite a while.... There was a
>thread here a short while ago.... I'm just glad to finally have
>different machines and enough to cover a breakdown and not be stacked
>up on each other.
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>On July 10, 2017 3:38:46 PM EDT, The Bob via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
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>Not exactly a forgotten branch.  I'd still play there if it was smoke
>free and wasn't so far from my house. :)
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>Good luck with the Magna save!
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>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Roland Joyal via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
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>Not sure what "forgotten branch of FSPA" means since machines are well
>maintained as reported by league mangers, and there has been many
>machines rotated in and out, but OK, glad you are enjoying the variety.
>Not saying Jungle Lord is 100% since I have only owned it for less than
>24 hours, but seemed close enough to be played tonight if anyone so
>desires.  -Roland  
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob K Mertz via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>Cc: Bob K Mertz <lists at bibleboy.org>
>Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 1:36 pm
>Subject: Re: [FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...
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>Thanks for the variety! I'm starting to feel like I'm no longer playing
>at the forgotten branch of the FSPA.  
>...... Now if you could only find a machine that everyone is good at
>except Edan things will be complete :)
>
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>On July 10, 2017 1:30:09 AM EDT, Roland Joyal via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>... Jungle Lord makes an appearance.  It's after 1 AM and spent the
>last 7 + hours getting the game ready for prime time, including fixing
>several hacks and issues, so hopefully it plays OK for Monday's league
>at Mighty Mikes.  Let Edan/Joe know if not.  Keep in mind it is a 35
>year old game so it is not going to play like a newer SS game. 
>
>
>Jungle Lord is a great early 80's pin with 2 levels/ramps, 4 flippers,
>Magna-Save buttons, TONS of drop targets, 2 ball Multiball, a super
>sexy back glass, and a VERY sophisticated rule sheet (for the time
>period) w/cool strategy and features (as Mr. Blonder will tell you).  
>And just TRY and get the ever-changing background sound to get to it's
>limit!  (I had a super long ball, 10X bonus (but fell just short of the
>default highest score), and as soon as I thought the pitch was as high
>as it can go, it then changes to something lower/different and gets
>more intense.  Gotta luv the 80's technology ;)   I will point out that
>in certain conditions there is a bug in the s/w or design where if
>there is a ball in the right saucer, and there is another ball on the
>play field, the second ball can hang up next to the locked ball, and it
>won't time out and kick the ball out (and no ball search for this era
>game).  
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>So now Mighty Milke's has 7 Pins, and you can't beat the variety of
>games.  The league has a mid 70's EM, an early 80's SS, a late 80's SS,
>a mid 90's WPC, a mid 90's WPC-95, an early 2010 decade Stern and a
>2017' new Stern pin. Don't know how long Jungle Lord will stay, as most
>of the games are for sale, but for now and the foreseeable future, it
>is there.  Things will be arranged differently in the next few weeks in
>the pinball room if or when it gets painted, so JL's final resting
>place may will be different.  
>
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>-Roland
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