[FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...

[Bob K Mertz]

Apologies, I never got the email from Mario that you're talking about.... Not sure if the list failed to send it to me or what the scenario was but because of that I thought your reply was directed at me....

As I said, I appreciate your efforts and I'm stoked about having 7 machines... It's far more than I was ever expecting.

On July 10, 2017 6:21:41 PM EDT, Roland Joyal via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>Bob, was not attacking, was stating the facts to DEFEND the "attacks"
>(not yours, as reply was supposed to be to Mario, as well as to his
>post a couple weeks ago stating the account feels like I am neglecting
>it (in favor of other ones), and I ask him and everybody to take it off
>line  (and what other accounts is he even talking about that I have
>that he implied get better treatment???)   Mighty Mikes gets the most
>attention. It is NOT neglected at all. Period.  Ok, so there were
>circumstances that one game, Avatar did not come in on time (low
>attendance that season being one of them) as I had planned, but it
>wasn't the end of the world and was certainly NOT just cause for Mario
>to attack and publicly suggest leaving the place to look for another
>one and ruining all my hard work and my investment of $.  That is
>patently wrong.  And you did not say anything about maintenance, but
>Mario did in his other posts, and that also is untrue and unfounded. 
>As far as a temporary machine, we are not going to move a machine in
>temporary for what was supposed to be a one week issue.  And if GB is
>there, where would you put it?  You can't just do things in someone's,
>and it's not my bar, plus there is the landlord to deal with.  If it
>was my pincade, then great, bring a hundred games in! 
>
>Even though I am friends with Mike, he is still in control and i don't
>want the pinball aspect to be a burden, there is always politics in
>anything we do.  I just got permission to place the additional machine
>for reasons we are just starting to make changes in that room and will
>eliminate the darts and make it 100% pinball/dining, so again, you are
>not privy to everything behind the scenes.  I have discussed that with
>league managers only, as appropriate.  So you are just going to have to
>trust that we are working for everyone's best interests, but if I can't
>convince someone of that, then I do not know what to tell you Bob.  But
>what I will tell you is that It is VERY demoralizing to hear Mario's
>comments and proposed actions in his multiple posts in the last couple
>months, especially when the comments are egregiously unfounded, as I
>spend a LOT of time and money purchasing and maintaining games and
>trying to rotate them, and everything else pinball related.  I am so
>busy with pinball I don't even have time to actually enjoy it by
>playing in a structured league.  And again, if anyone has a problem
>with a game or situation, please take it to the managers or me direct.
>
>  Thank you   
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob K Mertz via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>Cc: Bob K Mertz <lists at bibleboy.org>
>Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 5:06 pm
>Subject: Re: [FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...
>
>
>I can certainly appreciate that machines break.... But we were down a
>machine for an entire season while being promised one was coming.  I
>didn't even mention the GB issue... I replied initially to thank you
>for doing more for MM but instead you want to start attacking me?  You
>say the frustrations were unfounded but yet you had multiple people
>expressing the same frustrations.... And people have mentioned helping
>you move machines and i believe someone even brought up that they'd be
>happy to place one of their machines but you completely ignored that
>email and instead decided to jump all over Mario.  Also, I personally
>never once said anything about the machines not being maintained.... I
>even brought that up in the previous thread and gave you credit for
>that but, again, you ignored it and continued complaining because we
>were trying to address our frustrations. I also never complained about
>the breakdowns because I understand that these things happen - it was
>just frustrating when they happened while already being a machine
>down..... I like MM and I appreciate your work and effort but it's
>absolutely frustrating that no one can bring up a concern without you
>feeling completely attacked and, as in this case, I can't even thank
>you for an improvement and going above and beyond without you taking
>offense and trying to convince us that we were never frustrated.
>
>
>On July 10, 2017 4:41:46 PM EDT, Roland Joyal via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>Unfounded. The Stern GB issue was not my fault, as it would be obvious
>to any reasonable person that I was losing money having it sit there
>not operational for a few weeks, so it is in the operator's interest to
>have it running ASAP.  And there have been soooo many machines rotated
>in and out, I lose track.  And the maintenance on the machines was
>never neglected as the managers and I have said and doucumented.  It's
>pinball, a game will go down at any time.  Anyone in the hobby or
>business knows that.  IE: All 3 flippers on a brand new Dialed In at
>VUK have broken down within less than a couple weeks.  And if you want
>to buy a machine from my location then we can rotate even more, so pony
>up the bucks and lets start rotating more, as it is obvious I do not
>control which machines customers buy or how often they buy.  Consider
>the location lucky that they are rotated at all, much less the large
>number that actually has been rotated.  I should not have to, but
>aparrantly I do, remind you this is not the 1970's with tons of public
>pinball accounts to swap games with every year.  You also may not be
>privy to power issues or limitations with the lease or with the
>landlord owners desires, etc, so a person does not have an entitlement
>to a certain number of games in life.  I was happy to have not one, but
>two pinballs, working even half way decent, a Scared Stiff and NBA
>Fastreak, at my local bowling alley many years ago, and dropped many
>bucks in them regularly.  I was grateful.  Apparently some people's
>memory of Johns Place and all the serious issues between power and
>maintenance has faded quickly.  Amusement operators do not want to
>operate pinball, and locations do not want pinball ...it makes little
>money per sq foot of leased space because casual public pinball is
>dead.  And no way would I ever pull a machine from an account that has
>one machine to put temporarily in an account that already has 5 or more
>games just temporarily waiting for GB to be up and running (which was
>an unknown time period simply due to Stern's customer service) so it is
>not fair to consider that neglect either.   -Roland   
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mario via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>Cc: Mario <thisismario007 at aol.com>
>Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 3:54 pm
>Subject: Re: [FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...
>
>
>
>The forgotten branch of FSPA is how it feels sometimes in there.  Glad
>to see we are getting some variety AND a 7th game.  I FEEL YOUNG
>AGAIN!!
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 10, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Bob K Mertz via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>I was referring to the frustrations we had being down a machine for a
>season and machines being stale for quite a while.... There was a
>thread here a short while ago.... I'm just glad to finally have
>different machines and enough to cover a breakdown and not be stacked
>up on each other.
>
>
>On July 10, 2017 3:38:46 PM EDT, The Bob via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
>
>Not exactly a forgotten branch.  I'd still play there if it was smoke
>free and wasn't so far from my house. :)
>
>
>Good luck with the Magna save!
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Roland Joyal via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>
>Not sure what "forgotten branch of FSPA" means since machines are well
>maintained as reported by league mangers, and there has been many
>machines rotated in and out, but OK, glad you are enjoying the variety.
>Not saying Jungle Lord is 100% since I have only owned it for less than
>24 hours, but seemed close enough to be played tonight if anyone so
>desires.  -Roland  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob K Mertz via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>Cc: Bob K Mertz <lists at bibleboy.org>
>Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 1:36 pm
>Subject: Re: [FSPA] Swinging from a vine to Mighty Mikes ...
>
>
>Thanks for the variety! I'm starting to feel like I'm no longer playing
>at the forgotten branch of the FSPA.  
>...... Now if you could only find a machine that everyone is good at
>except Edan things will be complete :)
>
>
>On July 10, 2017 1:30:09 AM EDT, Roland Joyal via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>... Jungle Lord makes an appearance.  It's after 1 AM and spent the
>last 7 + hours getting the game ready for prime time, including fixing
>several hacks and issues, so hopefully it plays OK for Monday's league
>at Mighty Mikes.  Let Edan/Joe know if not.  Keep in mind it is a 35
>year old game so it is not going to play like a newer SS game. 
>
>
>Jungle Lord is a great early 80's pin with 2 levels/ramps, 4 flippers,
>Magna-Save buttons, TONS of drop targets, 2 ball Multiball, a super
>sexy back glass, and a VERY sophisticated rule sheet (for the time
>period) w/cool strategy and features (as Mr. Blonder will tell you).  
>And just TRY and get the ever-changing background sound to get to it's
>limit!  (I had a super long ball, 10X bonus (but fell just short of the
>default highest score), and as soon as I thought the pitch was as high
>as it can go, it then changes to something lower/different and gets
>more intense.  Gotta luv the 80's technology ;)   I will point out that
>in certain conditions there is a bug in the s/w or design where if
>there is a ball in the right saucer, and there is another ball on the
>play field, the second ball can hang up next to the locked ball, and it
>won't time out and kick the ball out (and no ball search for this era
>game).  
>
>
>So now Mighty Milke's has 7 Pins, and you can't beat the variety of
>games.  The league has a mid 70's EM, an early 80's SS, a late 80's SS,
>a mid 90's WPC, a mid 90's WPC-95, an early 2010 decade Stern and a
>2017' new Stern pin. Don't know how long Jungle Lord will stay, as most
>of the games are for sale, but for now and the foreseeable future, it
>is there.  Things will be arranged differently in the next few weeks in
>the pinball room if or when it gets painted, so JL's final resting
>place may will be different.  
>
>
>-Roland
>   .    
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