[FSPA] Videobusters
Dave Hubbard
dave.hubbard at gmail.com
Tue Feb 20 13:44:11 EST 2018
There are some physical fixes as well, but this borders on the extreme:
1) Intentionally de-level the machine so the bounce doesn't work.
2) Change the flipper rubbers to something more or less bouncy to change
that bounce.
3) Weaken the plunger spring (or similar) so that a full plunge doesn't go
around. Players could still bang-plunge if they wanted to try to control
that.
--- Dave
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Edward Most via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
wrote:
> Ya Dave.. that makes more sense to change the plunge shot(have to figure
> that out) rather than turn it off. Folks can still get VM during the game
> but not as easy.
>
> Edward Most
> edwardmost at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Hubbard via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
> Cc: Dave Hubbard <dave.hubbard at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Feb 20, 2018 1:24 pm
> Subject: Re: [FSPA] Videobusters
>
> It's still a risky strategy, unless you have it setup with more or less
> perfect physics so a full plunge around just bounces right in. If anyone
> does have it set up that way, don't do that. :) If you fail to start video
> mode, you are in serious jail. Also, a well played right-orbit tree is
> worth way more points in the end. So it's kind of medium-game strategy - a
> couple of video modes will probably beat 75% of competitors as Kevin said,
> but if your competitor does well on a mode tree, you WILL lose.
>
> That being said, it's still stupid and I hate the game for competition.
> Love it for casual play and theme.
>
> --- Dave
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
> Good luck. I've been trying to sell mine, but getting no interest.
>
> yeah that's right ... I own the stupid thing. i know how to play it. my
> high score is about 6 billion. but in competition, the best strategy is
> still "avoid starting modes and play video mode". bleah.
>
> hopefully some new code drops soon.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Edward Most via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
> WOW... not feeling my GB atm. May be time to sell it
>
>
> Edward Most
> edwardmost at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephanie Traub via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
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> Cc: Stephanie Traub <stephsharer at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Feb 20, 2018 1:09 pm
> Subject: [FSPA] Videobusters
>
> I tried having David Barber disabling this mode on the Ghostbusters LE at
> Lyman's, I was there when he tried. It was determined that video mode
> CANNOT be disabled.
>
>
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> 1. Re: VBH banking fun today? (William F. Wulf II)
> 2. GB at CarPool (video mode) (Dan Reynolds)
> 3. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Kendall Van Pool)
> 4. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Paul Liam McGlone)
> 5. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Kendall Van Pool)
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> Subject: Re: [FSPA] VBH banking fun today?
> Preplay scores have been entered, Sergio.
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> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Sergio Johnson via FSPA <
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> Hey,
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> Anybody out there interested in getting together this evening at VBH for
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> Thanks!
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> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 09:24:58 -0500
> Subject: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)
> Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion: would anyone be opposed to
> disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool? It's really dumb that
> 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
>
> There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much
> everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly
> fun time doing it. Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone
> does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
>
> It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively
> avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way
> of playing Video Mode on their next ball. In my opinion, avoiding progress
> on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is
> an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
>
> I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way. I won group 1
> two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times. I accomplished
> literally nothing else on the game. I don't think I made a single ramp
> shot or started a single mode.
>
> In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:00:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)
> I would agree with this suggestion if you are taking votes. I would
> probably lose more than win by this suggestion, but this isnt a video game
> league.
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 9:25 AM, "Dan Reynolds via FSPA" <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion: would anyone be opposed to
> disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool? It's really dumb that
> 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
>
> There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much
> everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly
> fun time doing it. Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone
> does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
>
> It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively
> avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way
> of playing Video Mode on their next ball. In my opinion, avoiding progress
> on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is
> an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
>
> I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way. I won group 1
> two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times. I accomplished
> literally nothing else on the game. I don't think I made a single ramp
> shot or started a single mode.
>
> In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
>
> -Dan
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)
> You should learn to shoot the ramps. Very fulfilling. Really, though,
> there are other strategies, but it is hard to play much without
> “accidentally” starting a mode.
>
> I’m thinking this type of change has to be done between seasons. I say
> that without looking at the preplay list, but really that shouldn’t make a
> difference.
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion: would anyone be opposed to
> disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool? It's really dumb that
> 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
> >
> > There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much
> everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly
> fun time doing it. Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone
> does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
> >
> > It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively
> avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way
> of playing Video Mode on their next ball. In my opinion, avoiding progress
> on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is
> an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
> >
> > I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way. I won group
> 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times. I accomplished
> literally nothing else on the game. I don't think I made a single ramp
> shot or started a single mode.
> >
> > In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
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> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:05:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)
> Im good with the change happening after the season.
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 10:03 AM, "Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA" <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
> You should learn to shoot the ramps. Very fulfilling. Really, though,
> there are other strategies, but it is hard to play much without
> “accidentally” starting a mode.
>
> I’m thinking this type of change has to be done between seasons. I say
> that without looking at the preplay list, but really that shouldn’t make a
> difference.
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion: would anyone be opposed to
> disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool? It's really dumb that
> 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
> >
> > There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much
> everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly
> fun time doing it. Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone
> does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
> >
> > It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively
> avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way
> of playing Video Mode on their next ball. In my opinion, avoiding progress
> on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is
> an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
> >
> > I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way. I won group
> 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times. I accomplished
> literally nothing else on the game. I don't think I made a single ramp
> shot or started a single mode.
> >
> > In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
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