[FSPA] Videobusters

Tue Feb 20 18:21:22 EST 2018

Don’t mess with Steph

She IS a lawyer HA : )

From: Edward most [mailto:edwardmost at verizon.net] 
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Don’t mess with Steph

She’s married to a lawyer

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On Feb 20, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Kevin Stone via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Poor Stephanie…she loves that game and knows how much I hate it, lol.  Don’t diss the GB : )

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Stef......Lmao

Dan Cotter had some cool mods that didn't look terrible above the out lane guides. They worked really well. 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 2:35 PM Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Oh, yeah, BTW, there is something wrong with the Captive ball shot on Bob’s GB.   It doesn’t seem to light the storage, no matter how many times you hit it.  I’ve had 3 or 4 balls moved up, but storage doesn’t light like it used to.   

On Feb 20, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Kevin Stone via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

It is a risk reward.  As Dave said if you miss the skill shot, you’re in jail and captive ball is only worthwhile shot.  

From: FSPA [ <mailto:fspa-bounces+pinball=kevinsplanet.com at fspazone.org> mailto:fspa-bounces+pinball=kevinsplanet.com at fspazone.org] On Behalf Of Dave Hubbard via FSPA
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It's still a risky strategy, unless you have it setup with more or less perfect physics so a full plunge around just bounces right in.  If anyone does have it set up that way, don't do that. :)  If you fail to start video mode, you are in serious jail.  Also, a well played right-orbit tree is worth way more points in the end.  So it's kind of medium-game strategy - a couple of video modes will probably beat 75% of competitors as Kevin said, but if your competitor does well on a mode tree, you WILL lose.

That being said, it's still stupid and I hate the game for competition.  Love it for casual play and theme.

          --- Dave

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Good luck.  I've been trying to sell mine, but getting no interest.  

yeah that's right ... I own the stupid thing.  i know how to play it.  my high score is about 6 billion.  but in competition, the best strategy is still "avoid starting modes and play video mode".  bleah.

hopefully some new code drops soon.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Edward Most via FSPA < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

WOW... not feeling my GB atm. May be time to sell it 

Edward Most
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Subject: [FSPA] Videobusters

I tried having David Barber disabling this mode on the Ghostbusters LE at Lyman's, I was there when he tried.  It was determined that video mode CANNOT be disabled. 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: VBH banking fun today? (William F. Wulf II)
   2. GB at CarPool (video mode) (Dan Reynolds)
   3. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Kendall Van Pool)
   4. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Paul Liam McGlone)
   5. Re: GB at CarPool (video mode) (Kendall Van Pool)

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Preplay scores have been entered, Sergio. 

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On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Sergio Johnson via FSPA < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Hey, 

Anybody out there interested in getting together this evening at VBH for some practice/bank scores? Let me know directly if you are,

Thanks!

Sergio

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Subject: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)

Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion:  would anyone be opposed to disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool?  It's really dumb that 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots. 

There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly fun time doing it.  Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem. 

It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way of playing Video Mode on their next ball.  In my opinion, avoiding progress on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is an awful, unfun way to play pinball.

I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way.  I won group 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times.  I accomplished literally nothing else on the game.  I don't think I made a single ramp shot or started a single mode.  

In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.

-Dan

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Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)

I would agree with this suggestion if you are taking votes.  I would probably lose more than win by this suggestion, but this isnt a video game league.

On Feb 20, 2018 9:25 AM, "Dan Reynolds via FSPA" < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion:  would anyone be opposed to disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool?  It's really dumb that 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots. 

There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly fun time doing it.  Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem. 

It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way of playing Video Mode on their next ball.  In my opinion, avoiding progress on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is an awful, unfun way to play pinball.

I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way.  I won group 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times.  I accomplished literally nothing else on the game.  I don't think I made a single ramp shot or started a single mode.  

In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.

-Dan

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Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)
You should learn to shoot the ramps.  Very fulfilling.  Really, though, there are other strategies, but it is hard to play much without “accidentally” starting a mode.

I’m thinking this type of change has to be done between seasons.   I say that without looking at the preplay list, but really that shouldn’t make a difference.

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>
> Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion:  would anyone be opposed to disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool?  It's really dumb that 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
>
> There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly fun time doing it.  Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
>
> It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way of playing Video Mode on their next ball.  In my opinion, avoiding progress on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
>
> I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way.  I won group 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times.  I accomplished literally nothing else on the game.  I don't think I made a single ramp shot or started a single mode.
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> In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
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> -Dan
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Subject: Re: [FSPA] GB at CarPool (video mode)

Im good with the change happening after the season.  

On Feb 20, 2018 10:03 AM, "Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA" < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

You should learn to shoot the ramps.  Very fulfilling.  Really, though, there are other strategies, but it is hard to play much without “accidentally” starting a mode.

I’m thinking this type of change has to be done between seasons.   I say that without looking at the preplay list, but really that shouldn’t make a difference.

> On Feb 20, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA < <mailto:fspa at fspazone.org> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>
> Hey folks. Just an idea / suggestion:  would anyone be opposed to disabling the Video Mode on Ghostbusters at CarPool?  It's really dumb that 90% of the games are won by whoever gets the most video mode skillshots.
>
> There is a lot to do on that game, but in competition, pretty much everyone just goes for Crossing the Streams, and nobody has a particularly fun time doing it.  Video Modes are fine, but when it becomes all anyone does on the game for points reasons, I think that's a problem.
>
> It's gotten to the point where some good players have started actively avoiding starting any of the modes on the game, because it gets in the way of playing Video Mode on their next ball.  In my opinion, avoiding progress on a pinball machine just so you can play the video mode over and over is an awful, unfun way to play pinball.
>
> I'm not making this suggestion to help myself, by the way.  I won group 1 two weeks ago by doing Cross the Streams three times.  I accomplished literally nothing else on the game.  I don't think I made a single ramp shot or started a single mode.
>
> In my opinion, winning a round of pinball should involve playing pinball.
>
> -Dan
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