[FSPA] FSPA: CarPool Results for 10/09/2018 (Meet #4)

Thu Oct 11 15:52:41 EDT 2018

I'm not a regular at Carpool, but I'm going to side with Mario on this one.

Not only is it poor form to take your rage out on the machine, it is
EXTREMELY poor form to jack it up to the point where you are affecting
other groups.  I've seen a lot of shit in my competitive "career" and too
often it's the next player's responsibility to deal with what the previous
player has done.  I've seen machines shoved so far they are practically
touching the neighboring machine - how is anyone supposed to play that?
Hell, at a recent tournament at Lyman's, someone in my group shoved a
machine to the side so hard they would have crushed the neighboring
player's hand had there not been a cup holder installed on the leg.  As I
recall, the other player ended up with a tilt warning because of that.  No
compensation to the victim, no punishment to the offender.

If I were in Mario's shoes, I would be pissed off too that I had to play a
machine in this condition, and doubly pissed that someone with the magic
keys was able to go in, fix a problem, and realize a benefit for
themselves.  I would argue that jacking up a machine so badly that the tilt
bob needs to be fixed should be ruled as Interference.

It's bad enough to see people frothing at the mouth and screaming
obscenities - we get enough side-eyes from staff at VBH when this happens,
it's not a good look.  I know I'm not perfect and I used to be really bad.
But for fucks sake, stop abusing the machines.  Go punch a wall or
something.

      --- Dave

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM The Bob via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

> Trust me.  If it was perfectly level before I played it the odds of it
> staying that way are about as good as Mario using PC language. :)
>
> I'm going there after work today and I'll relevel it.  I might just put
> painters tape on the floor around each leg so people know where it should
> sit.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:10 PM Edward Most <edwardmost at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Joe and I played it and we both thought the game was shaky. My thought
>> was that it had been moved for the FPO and just needs levelers adjusted.
>> The tilt warning(sound) seems to be hard to hear but if your paying
>> attention you will see it and hear it. I noticed it when Joe was playing
>> but didnt hear it when I played it.
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The Bob via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> Cc: The Bob <worktheweb at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 12:42 pm
>> Subject: Re: [FSPA] FSPA: CarPool Results for 10/09/2018 (Meet #4)
>>
>> I didn't hear about anyone complaining about unexplained tilts on AFM.
>> There were 3 groups that played AFM after we did.  Scott's explanation,
>> while terse and slightly unhelpful, is completely accurate.  If you are
>> playing a game and detect a problem like tilt-throughs or "I really didn't
>> tilt but it tilted" type things stop playing and come find me.  If he found
>> something amiss after you guys played I should have been clued in so that I
>> could make a ruling.
>>
>> Next time I'll avoid slam tilting the game.  Next time you find a game
>> anomaly please let me know so we can get back to having fun and playing
>> competitively. :)
>>
>> Oh, in other news, did anybody see my iPad mini laying around?  It has an
>> Amazon Web Services sticker on the cover. I used it during game picks then
>> I fear I may have left it at Carpool.  Planning on stopping by tonight to
>> check.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:30 PM Mario via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What I don’t understand is, when “Bukkake” Bob slam tilts the crap out of
>> AFM and then our games afterwards were affected with multiple unexplainable
>> tilts, why the game wasn’t DQ’d or at least we get a chance for a replay.
>> After we complained about it, Scott goes into the game and sees the tilt
>> bobber is jacked up, fixes it, and then goes ahead and plays HIS game with
>> no tilts!  Seems like if someone has access to open the game they have a
>> GREAT advantage to fix a problem and not have to deal with it while the
>> rest of us get screwed.  And then we get the “tough luck” speech, as in
>> “you should have said something during your play and stopped playing
>> immediately”.  Well how are we supposed to know to do that?  We complained
>> right after and that should be good enough.  Isn’t the fair thing to do,
>> once a tilt bobber issue is discovered and fixed, that we should at least
>> be given the choice as a group to replay our game?  Are we so blinded that
>> we are losing perspective here, in that we are here to have fun and play
>> competitively, and when both get screwed up the letter of the rules
>> prohibit us from fixing an obvious oversight?  Common sense should trump
>> the rules every time.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>> Funny how “Tilt Warning” sort of rhymes with "Tilt Whining”.
>> We get plenty of both in our world.
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> AFM's tilt at Carpool is *weird*.  i never get just one warning.  it's
>> either nothing, or danger-danger-tilt.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:16 AM CJ Brown via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I will never forget that amazing AFM slam tilt.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:01 PM Bob Johnson via League Manager via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>> Meet Results - FSPA: CarPool Fall 2018
>> Meet #4 - October 9, 2018 <http://fspa.league.papa.org/meetResults/143/4>
>> Overall StandingsShow Points By Meet
>> <http://fspa.league.papa.org/pointsByMeet/143/4>
>>
>> PlayerTotal PointsDiv Avg LadderForfeits
>> Ed Most <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_104> 58 4.50
>> Phil Rogoff <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_424>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/424#badges> 55 12.00
>> Eric Schoch <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_346> 53 2.00
>> Josh Jurgensen <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_345> 51
>> 21.50
>> Jon Flanders <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_452>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/452#badges> 51 25.00
>> Bob S. Johnson <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_210>[image:
>> :(] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/210#badges> 50 1.00
>> Jonathan Williams <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_193> 48
>> 8.00
>> Scott Sidley <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_73> 47 7.50
>> Mario Adractas <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_202> 44
>> 16.50
>> Alex Venezia <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_395>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/395#badges> 44 21.00
>> Bridget Merz <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_95> 44 29.00
>> Jessica Harrison <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_119> 44
>> 38.00 1
>> Randy Bisset <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_318> 44
>> 34.00
>> Christine Grieco <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_396> 43
>> 42.00
>> Gilles Melanson <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_108> 42
>> 5.00 1
>> Ken Van Pool <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_130> 42
>> 11.00
>> Patrick Pacak <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_389> 41
>> 8.50
>> Steve Kapinos <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_155> 41
>> 14.00 1
>> Steve Ryback <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_344> 41
>> 24.00
>> John Scurto <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_410> 41 27.00
>> Craig Dobson <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_462> 41
>> 36.50
>> Matt Burke <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_248> 39 13.50
>> Frank Cueto <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_385> 39 20.00
>> Andrey Dobson <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_461> 39
>> 41.00
>> Daniel Reynolds <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_311> 38
>> 13.00
>> Patrick Craig <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_455>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/455#badges> 37 34.50
>> Joe Schober <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_38> 36 5.50
>> Deb Kapke <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_22> 35 18.50
>> Nick Vaka <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_409> 35 29.00
>> Rich Wickersham <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_180> 34
>> 11.50
>> Lindsey Most <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_132>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/132#badges> 34 23.00
>> Aaron Baum <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_322>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/322#badges> 34 30.00
>> Lauren Fortner <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_460>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/460#badges> 34 37.00
>> Mike Polisky <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_386> 33
>> 25.50 2
>> Brad Streeter <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_91> 32
>> 29.00
>> Ian Flanders <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_483>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/483#badges> 29 41.50
>> Josh Myerson <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_126>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/126#badges> 28 34.00
>> Will Cromarty <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_457>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/457#badges> 28 33.00 4
>> Justin Good <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_425>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/425#badges> 28 44.00 4
>> Sabrina Patel <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_456>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/456#badges> 24 41.50
>> Rob Thomas <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_201> 23 18.50
>> 3
>> CJ Brown <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_207> 21 3.50
>> Eric Meinsohn <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_482>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/482#badges> 15 44.50
>> Danny Pijeira <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_459>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/459#badges> 13 18.00
>> Shandi Cromarty <http://fspa.league.papa.org/stats/143/1-4#wlbp_458>[image:
>> :)] <http://fspa.league.papa.org/playerInfo/458#badges> 5 37.50 8
>> Match Results
>> Group 1
>> players
>> Bob S. Johnson
>> Eric Schoch
>> CJ Brown
>> Pirates
>> game 1 scorespts
>> 3,474,710 2
>> [image: †]29,160,800 4
>> 1,389,730 0
>> Attack from Mars
>> game 2 scorespts
>> slam tilt 0
>> 206,607,530 2
>> 547,283,460 4
>> Flash Gordon
>> game 3 scorespts
>> [image: ‡]2,095,530 4
>> 1,486,010 2
>> 171,720 0
>> Maiden
>> game 4 scorespts
>> [image: †]67,988,980 4
>> 11,582,690 0
>> 22,654,150 2
>> Game
>> Points
>> 10
>> 8
>> 6
>> Bonus
>> Points
>> 3
>> 2
>> 1
>> Total
>> Points
>> 13
>> 10
>> 7
>> Next
>> Group
>>
>>
>> [image: ↓]
>> Group 2
>> players
>> Joe Schober
>> Gilles Melanson
>> Ed Most
>> Attack from Mars
>> game 1 scorespts
>> 822,192,280 0
>> 1,418,278,970 2
>> [image: †]4,508,064,580 4
>> Monster Bash
>> game 2 scorespts
>> 6,908,030 2
>> 2,435,560 0
>> 22,345,490 4
>> Maiden
>> game 3 scorespts
>> 57,211,930 4
>> forfeit 0
>> disqualified 0
>> Dialed In
>> game 4 scorespts
>> 57,500 0
>> 268,480 4
>> 91,980 2
>> Game
>> Points
>> 6
>> 6
>> 10
>> Bonus
>> Points
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> Total
>> Points
>> 7
>> 8
>> 13
>> Next
>> Group
>> [image: ↓]
>>
>> [image: ↑]
>> Group 3
>> players
>> Patrick Pacak
>> Jonathan Williams
>> Scott Sidley
>> StarshipTroop
>> game 1 scorespts
>> [image: †]34,265,480 2
>> [image: †]120,381,310 4
>> 23,296,690 0
>> Flash Gordon
>> game 2 scorespts
>> 139,450 0
>> 386,950 2
>> 595,430 4
>> Pirates
>> game 3 scorespts
>> [image: †]6,662,180 2
>> 1,263,180 0
>> 15,362,330 4
>> Attack from Mars
>> game 4 scorespts
>> 798,476,590 0
>> 2,353,895,690 2
>> 4,704,027,560 4
>> Game
>> Points
>> 4
>> 8
>> 12
>> Bonus
>> Points
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> Total
>> Points
>> 5
>> 10
>> 15
>> Next
>> Group
>> [image: ↓]
>>
>> [image: ↑]
>> Group 4
>> players
>> Phil Rogoff
>> Daniel Reynolds
>> Rich Wickersham
>> Ken Van Pool
>> Attack from Mars
>> game 1 scorespts
>> 1,206,029,970 2
>> 1,165,085,890 1
>> [image: †]1,515,839,830 2
>> 1,703,293,410 3
>>
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