[FSPA] previously unknown pinball technique discovered?

Bob K Mertz lists at bibleboy.org
Fri Sep 7 10:14:48 EDT 2018 

I agree that I think this is just another tool people can use or not use.... Annoying? I don't think this would bug me at all if someone did this beside me -- I'd much rather someone do this than the ever common "F you" followed by sliding three machine back with force which I've yet to see someone disqualified or even disciplined for......  

I suspect most people will continue to bitch about this for a while until, slowly, people start trying it for themselves and actually having personal evidence for or against the method rather than just attacking for being innov..... I mean weird.


On September 7, 2018 6:58:07 AM CDT, eric schoch via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>Steve P.  If you can use this technique as you say, it is just another
>tool you can use to increase your play time on the machine.  Nice job.
> 
>I can not believe someone suggested you attach a dildo to the cabinet.
> People are making quick judgements on something they have never tried
>nor even been present for while someone applied the technique.  It just
>goes to show you how many dildos are already attached to machines
>everytime they place their hands on the flippers.  
>On Friday, September 7, 2018, 12:16:55 AM EDT, Steve Peck via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:  
> 
>i should also clarify that along with the video making it sound louder
>than it was, I was using more force than necessary - partly because i
>was focused on the video, and partly because holding the phone put me
>at an awkward, unpracticed angle. the awkward angle is also why i was
>using the side of my fist and not the palm.
>you just have to experiment with it. to Steve K's point, the amount of
>force is probably nearly irrelevant. this could probably be done very
>quietly, granted probably taking a bit longer.
>
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Steve Peck <speckking at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>1a - you sure the direction of the vibrations is irrelevant? you did
>the maths? cause i'd bet doing this along the plane which the bobber
>swings has the potential to increase or decrease the swing
>1b - my hits are going through the vertical 'spine' of the side rails.
>this isnt handling them off the game. they dont flex when doing this
>and the glass isn't really even moving
>
>2 - i figured this out before ever confirming by looking. it works
>every time. pretty easy to tell - double danger, do this, have
>confidence to do a slap save less than 30s later. if you tried it you
>would know how reliable it is instead of speculating
>
>3 - how is it so disruptive? it can be done in normal play space and
>isn't that loud. 
>
>and for Joe - if it hurts, you're doing it too hard and/or with the
>wrong part of your hand. really i recommend the heel of the palm and
>the speed/force of an enthusiastic clap or so.
>
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:27 PM, steve <flynnibus at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>1a - The downward movement isn't the key.  It's the vibrations.  Its
>why you hit fast, not slow and big1b - The side rails are thin and
>often poorly supported behind depending on the fit of the trim and
>glass.  If you've ever handled them off a game, you'd see how easy it
>is to bend or crease them.
>2 - Hindsight is 20/20...  aka when you can confirm it by peeking
>3 - My comment isn't purely about the noise.  Plus, with games with
>looser glass, it will be an bigger issue.
>Go get something like a feedback motor... or d-cell battery operated
>toy you'd find in a sex shop... and hold it against the cabinet.  I bet
>you find the same result as long as the motor shakes enough for the
>energy to get to the tilt mount.  Play with the speeds... and you'll
>see how quickly you can kill the movement.
>
>
>On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 11:20:03 PM EDT, Steve Peck
><speckking at gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
>1 - how are you going to hit straight down through the side of the
>cabinet while hitting wood? how are you going to dent a side rail with
>the fleshy side of your fist or your palm?
>2 - it works. Well.
>3 - maybe, but again the video makes it seem much louder than it really
>is in person. since a fleshy part of the hand is used it's a fairly
>dull/low thudding.
>regardless of how sustained this is you're never, ever going to hurt a
>machine doing it. i really doubt a bare hand could do anything to a
>side rail even if you're trying but the technique doesnt require that
>much force - it's all about inducing vibration on the axis that runs
>vertically through the bobber.
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:01 PM, steve <flynnibus at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This is a solution that is far worse than the actual problem
>1 - Hitting the rail is completely unnecessary when you could have just
>hit the wood cabinet and avoided the risk of denting the side rails2 -
>In practice you can't tell if its working or not... so you can go
>banging along blindly3 - It's very disruptive to people around you
>While it may be less force than nudging... you don't nudge for 10-30
>seconds consequently.  
>I wouldn't recommend you do this as a practice.
>On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 10:50:48 PM EDT, Steve Peck via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:  
> 
> oh it's also not as loud in person as it seems in the video
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 10:47 PM Steve Peck <speckking at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>it doesn't take that much force. Certainly less than standard nudging
>and not in a way that could ever hurt a machine.
>You bet I'm doing this for 15 seconds in comp rather than waiting 3 min
>for a bobber to stop and I doubt there's any rule against such a thing.
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 10:44 PM eric schoch via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
>
>If someone complains at a tournament you tell them to “STFU i am
>playing pinball.  Do some research!”
>On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 9:59:24 PM EDT, Dave Hubbard via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:  
> 
>So... basically you're beating on the cabinet instead of just waiting
>for the tilt bob to slow down on its own.  Two comments:
>1) If I ever saw you do this to one of my pins, that would be the last
>time you play it.2) If you were doing this next to me in a tournament,
>a TD is getting called for interference.
>Sure, it works, but it's just about the most annoying "technique" I can
>think of.
>Flame away.
>     --- Dave
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:53 PM, Roy via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=_slFooZkmpw&feature=youtu.be
> 
> On 9/6/2018 9:36 PM, Colin Horner via FSPA wrote:
>  
> Is there anything that would convince you to "give up" that pursuit?
> 
> Josh Jurgensen via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
> 
>If this 'video proof' turns out to just be a Rick astley clip, I'm
>going to run the risk of getting expelled from all FSPA activities just
>to slam tilt any machine you're playing.  
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 7:56 PM Steve Peck via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
>  
>sounds like it really is a new discovery. i'll make a video when i can.
>
>  it's a bare handed nudging technique that should work on any machine
>   
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Brian Newhard via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
> 
> Rare earth magnet on the bottom of the cabinet? 
>On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Steve Peck via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>   
>    Hey all, 
>I might have discovered a previously unknown pinball technique. Not
>sure what to do with the info. 
>  
>I need to make a video to demonstrate, but first thing is I want to
>make sure it's not already known 
>so does anyone know of a way to reliably, consistently, and quickly
>stop a tilt bobber swinging from normal playing conditions outside the
>cabinet?   
>  -Steve
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