[FSPA] Preplays are better

[Bob K Mertz]

How does that affect the person that didn't make it to league that night?  Do they just not get any points if everyone else is being paired up around them?

On June 29, 2021 10:04:16 PM EDT, Dave Hubbard via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>Preplays might be better, but that's just choosing the best of two bad
>options. No one likes playing against mystery scores where you have no
>idea
>how the game was set up or whether they played by the rules (multiple
>extra
>balls?) or whether it's just a made up score. And you're still playing
>by
>yourself if everyone else in your group doesn't show up, so you haven't
>solved that problem.
>
>The issue isn't preplays vs. drop-2, it's the fixed groups. If we had a
>system where players checked in before league then we just peel them
>off in
>groups of 3 or 4, the "number of people in the group" problem
>disappears.
>
>You'd need a different laddering system, but surely that's solveable.
>
>--- Dave
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 9:52 PM Matt Wycoff via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>wrote:
>
>> It’s a trade off, you can force four player groups in the software
>but
>> with “many” groups you can run into game backlogs especially with top
>heavy
>> leagues like many of us have.  (Good players).
>>
>> To compensate for this, if there are enough location games you can
>have
>> more 3 player groups but you do run the risk of a 1 person group from
>time
>> to time.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:48 PM Stephen Jonke via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s how it should have been handled by the rules, but the
>question is
>>> do 1 player groups happen more often with the drop 2 worst weeks
>rule?
>>> Maybe. It will be interesting to see what happens in the last 2
>weeks, and
>>> especially last week.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> On Jun 29, 2021, 9:36 PM -0400, Matt Wycoff via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org>,
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you mean “reorganized” groups?  You can combine people into
>>> groups for socially competitive purposes but the rules clearly
>state..
>>>
>>> “ If only one player in a group is present and eligible to play (or
>has
>>> preplay scores for) a game, that player earns a win by forfeit and
>receives
>>> three (3) game points. That player still plays the game and his
>score will
>>> be recorded for statistical purposes.”
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 9:28 PM Bob K Mertz via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And that makes it tough for those of us that don't have set
>schedules at
>>>> work and can potentially get stuck at any moment. In my case I
>always try
>>>> my best to send a notice but it can be easy to get caught up trying
>to make
>>>> it in time that you totally miss what time it actually is. Whether
>it
>>>> actually *is* any better or not, I felt a lot less stressed knowing
>I had
>>>> preplays on standby just in case.
>>>>
>>>> For various reasons I feel a lot better when there is a backup set
>of
>>>> preplays that can be used in this situation. At the very least
>there needs
>>>> to be clear expectations of what the limits are if we stick with
>the no
>>>> prepay/drop two rule but for me personally the undated preplay
>system
>>>> worked well and if we were taking a poll that would be my
>preference.
>>>>
>>>> On June 29, 2021 9:12:34 PM EDT, Deb Kapke via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel like if we have a drop-2 rule then we also need a
>>>>> let-a-league-officer-know-you-won’t-be-here rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> It can be mission critical.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 8:58 PM, Kevin Stone via FSPA
><fspa at fspazone.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought dropping 2 scores would be better than preplays, but it
>is
>>>>> absolutely not. We would have had two 1 actual player groups
>tonight in
>>>>> first and last group,  but adjusted groups.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 player groups SUCK.  You can crush a game and still get 1 point
>for
>>>>> 2nd place.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can figure this shit out,  I'm impressed. Edan and I got it
>>>>> re-organized but it was a pain.
>>>>>
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