[FSPA] READ ME! Preplays vs. Drop 2 Survey!

Wed Sep 1 17:46:28 EDT 2021

I understand why FSPA uses groups, however I have played in leagues where the match ups were random. As in they were not set until everyone was there and we knew who was playing. 

If making sure you keep the better players together for competition then keep groups but still make them random.

Another aspect we used was the lowest ranked person was first on the list and picked the game they wanted to play. Then number two… etc… if it was only a three person group then the person with the lowest point total through 3 games would pick the fourth. The player order went from 1-4 from the pervious game. I played in quite a few 1 player groups because the other two or three were not there and it was preplays. 

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> On Sep 1, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Matt Wycoff via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
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> For ocelot, we will plan to continue the Drop-2 format, without regrouping.  We will work to make the tiebreakers and forfeits more clear, if rule changes are necessary (which I doubt) we will announce those to players at the league location and on the FSPA Web site.  If you are planning on playing Ocelot this season (Sept 15th) and have questions or concerns, please contact me directly. 
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>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1:50 PM Deb Kapke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>> Last season was summer.
>> Summer traditionally has more no-shows if I’m not mistaken.
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>> Plus Covid. 
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>> And crazy rainstorms. 
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>> So I’m not sure this one small summer of leagues with a new rule provides data usable to assess attendance resulting from D2.
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>> (And I like D2 for locations with many machines, particularly if those locations have shorter hours.) 
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>>>> On Sep 1, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Stephen Jonke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
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>>> I’d be curious to know what long term affect drop 2 has on attendance. I’d guess it would be worse, but we’d have to see how it plays out long term. Last season were there more no-shows than usual?
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>>> Steve
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>>> On Sep 1, 2021, 12:25 PM -0400, Gregg Giblin via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>, wrote:
>>> Adding my thoughts, having to pre-play 2 sets at a large location (MOM’S) is horrible.
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>>> Gregg
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>>> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Edward Most via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
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>>> Just my two cents here, Having played 2 FSPA leagues last season and many many more prior I have to say that the last season was by far the worst. This has no reflection on the folks that managed the leagues, in fact quite the opposite. Kevin Rich Edan and  Matty Y worked their butts off. One player games are bad. It goes against the spirit of playing and competing with friends. If I wanted to play pinball by myself I could do that home. Much luv to the pinball Tribe.Ed
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>>> -----Original Message-----From: Stephanie Traub via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>Cc: Stephanie Traub <stephsharer at gmail.com>Sent: Wed, Sep 1, 2021 9:39 amSubject: Re: [FSPA] READ ME! Preplays vs. Drop 2 Survey!
>>> Hey all, going to close the survey now as we have more results than Survey Monkey will let us view for free  .... heh.  Thank you for all your responses!  We will analyze the results and get back to everyone.
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 12:16 AM Wei-Hwa Huang via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>> Maybe people like playing against people in one-player groups.
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 7:15 PM Austin Mackert via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>> The survey says, people like playing in one-player groups, apparently.
>>> Weird.
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 9:30 PM Edward Most via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>> and the survey says???
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>>> -----Original Message-----From: Daniel Reynolds via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>To: FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>CC: Daniel Reynolds <daniel.j.reynolds at gmail.com>Sent: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:06Subject: Re: [FSPA] READ ME! Preplays vs. Drop 2 Survey!
>>> regardless of the results, i appreciate FSPA management reaching out for general opinions.  thanks for all you folks do.
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:20 AM Stephanie Traub via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>> SURVEY! SURVEY! SURVEY!
>>> At the request of FSPA Exec, please find a link below to take a survey regarding your feelings about drop two vs. preplays.  Please take it only if you played in this past season and thus were exposed to this new system.
>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/G5KBHK5
>>> I will close the survey at COB FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 3. So don't delay!
>>> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/G5KBHK5https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/G5KBHK5https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/G5KBHK5https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/G5KBHK5
>>> Thanks!Stephanie
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