[FSPA] Experimental High Score League Results for 04/27/2022 (Meet #1)

Sat Apr 30 08:30:51 EDT 2022

Hi, everyone.

I had a great time as one of the other "outsiders".  Steve, I caught up
with you for a few minutes to get an update on Spinner's playoffs, etc, but
you're right that by the time we got half way through people needed to
finish different games.  However, I didn't mind and others didn't seem to
mind either just jumping in on a game to help someone out even though they
had already played it.  I found everyone to be very welcoming.  For
example, Rob and Barry both offered right away to break up their group to
get me in the rotation.

Regarding the scoring, I prefer the second one you did Steve (and not just
because I jumped 3 spots, lol).  Dave or whoever kills it in a game will
still get  their 10, but because the format provides a points distribution
directly correlated with scores I like how it works out for when a bunch of
people have close scores on a game.  However we do the scoring though is
fine with me.  It was a lot of fun.

It was great playing some new games, old favorites and meeting new people.
I'll definitely be back next week making the long trek from Chambersburg,
PA, lol.  Thanks for pulling this in between season together Dave and
everyone.

Matt Newton

On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 7:16 PM Steve Jones via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
wrote:

> FWIW, Since I dont normally play @ MOMS league, my friend and I were kind
> of the "outsiders"..  Dave played with us first, and I asked a couple
> others during the evening if they wanted to play with us but everyone
> seemed to be happy in their groups..  Also, by the time we got half through
> it, people needed to finish on different machines so it  would become
> tougher.
>
> Scott and I would be happy to have a new competitor next Wednesday night!
> :-)
>
> -Steve Jones
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 6:09 PM Dave Hubbard via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I had the same thought, and tried my best at week 1 to "float groups" and
>> insert myself into other pairings as much as I could.  I don't think I
>> ended up playing with everyone (due to me not needing a certain machine or
>> whatever) but I played with a lot of people.  Most people seemed to just
>> peel off and play in the same group though and that's fine too.
>>
>> It's meant to be "player's choice" there, if you want to mix it up you
>> can, if you want to run it down with the same 3 friends you can do that
>> also.  I hope no one would say "no, you can't play in our group."
>>
>>          --- Dave
>>
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>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 4:41 PM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm a little afraid to say this, but one concern I have with how this
>>> works is that people who always play together might continue to play
>>> together and other people may feel a bit left out. I guess if there's
>>> enough outgoing people who will ask lots of others to play than this would
>>> not be a problem, but it could be an issue? I don't know. You tell me.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 4:22 PM Joe P. Said via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah cool. I like the math component too
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 4:13 PM Steve Jones <172pilot at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I misunderstood when I first read it and thought it was going to work
>>>>> that way.. I guess there's pros and cons to both ways.
>>>>> As a geek, I had to take our scores and recalculate them to see if it
>>>>> would have made a difference in standings.  Turns out there is a slight
>>>>> difference in order but it's mostly the same:
>>>>> I'm not pushing for any change.. just doing the calculations.  I'm
>>>>> just in it for the fun!
>>>>> This way, one amazingly good or bad game could offset the total points
>>>>> more.  Note - I didn't do the scaling for 4 games vs 6 - I counted all
>>>>> games since all I was interested in was the potential change in the
>>>>> ordering.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 3:45 PM Joe P. Said via FSPA <
>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference there was a system created by another Dave, called
>>>>>> Arcade or something like that. Kevin Stone will remember as it was used in
>>>>>> a Magfest tournament.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It gave a % number of the top score as your score. So if someone got
>>>>>> 1 trillion on Godzilla and the second score was 1B they would only get 0.1
>>>>>> points and the top score would get 100. Similarly if someone got 1T and the
>>>>>> second guy got 999B the second place would get 99.9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just food for thought. I like whatever you're doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:38 PM Dave Hubbarvia FSPA <
>>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok!  Now that week 1 is in the books, so to speak, I'll explain the
>>>>>>> scoring system a bit more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had 11 players come out for week 1.  So for each game, top score
>>>>>>> gets 10 points, bottom score gets 1 point, and everyone else gets a
>>>>>>> flatly-distributed amount of points depending on how many people played
>>>>>>> that week.  In this case, that differential is (roughly, there's rounding
>>>>>>> involved) 0.9 points.  So 2nd place gets 9.1, third place gets 8.2, etc.
>>>>>>> This will change week to week depending on how many people play.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the weekly totals, it's all the individual scores, times 4, then
>>>>>>> divided by the number of machines actually played.  In this case we got
>>>>>>> through all 6 without malfunctions, so the weekly factor is 4/6.  If say,
>>>>>>> Hot Tip blew up mid-session, we'd just drop it and use the other machines
>>>>>>> with a factor of 4/5.  This allows us to just get rid of machines that
>>>>>>> malfunction without having to worry about rounding up everyone again to
>>>>>>> play a replacement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I don't know why the machine scores aren't sorted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone come out for week 2!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --- Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:31 PM Dave Hubbard via League Manager via
>>>>>>> FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meet Results - Experimental High Score League Summer 2022
>>>>>>>> Meet #1 - April 27, 2022
>>>>>>>> <http://dare.league.papa.org/meetResults/1/1>
>>>>>>>> Overall StandingsShow Points By Meet
>>>>>>>> <http://dare.league.papa.org/pointsByMeet/1/1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PlayerTotal PointsHigh Scores
>>>>>>>> Dave Hubbard <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_1> 37.6
>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> Stephanie Traub <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_10>
>>>>>>>> 32.2 1
>>>>>>>> Eric Steinberg <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_8>
>>>>>>>> 29.8
>>>>>>>> Steve Jones <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_3> 23.2
>>>>>>>> Rob Wintler-Cox <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_7>
>>>>>>>> 23.2
>>>>>>>> Barry Schwartz <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_6>
>>>>>>>> 23.2
>>>>>>>> Jose Chong <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_11> 20.8
>>>>>>>> John Locke <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_5> 16
>>>>>>>> Matt Newton <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_2> 14.8 1
>>>>>>>> Jared Spier <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_9> 12.4
>>>>>>>> Scott Brooke <http://dare.league.papa.org/stats/1/1-1#wlbp_4> 8.8
>>>>>>>> Match Results
>>>>>>>> Group 1
>>>>>>>> players
>>>>>>>> Stephanie Traub
>>>>>>>> Jose Chong
>>>>>>>> Eric Steinberg
>>>>>>>> Jared Spier
>>>>>>>> John Locke
>>>>>>>> Barry Schwartz
>>>>>>>> Rob Wintler-Cox
>>>>>>>> Steve Jones
>>>>>>>> Scott Brooke
>>>>>>>> Dave Hubbard
>>>>>>>> Matt Newton
>>>>>>>> Godzilla
>>>>>>>> game 1 scorespts
>>>>>>>> 61,229,450 5.5
>>>>>>>> 23,242,350 1
>>>>>>>> 155,712,720 9.1
>>>>>>>> 37,745,440 3.7
>>>>>>>> 75,874,020 7.3
>>>>>>>> 83,932,110 8.2
>>>>>>>> 33,873,970 2.8
>>>>>>>> 66,881,830 6.4
>>>>>>>> 41,323,030 4.6
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]265,169,980 10
>>>>>>>> 33,556,870 1.9
>>>>>>>> AC/DC
>>>>>>>> game 2 scorespts
>>>>>>>> 25,263,270 9.1
>>>>>>>> 11,810,480 5.5
>>>>>>>> 18,434,080 8.2
>>>>>>>> 8,824,710 2.8
>>>>>>>> 9,301,050 3.7
>>>>>>>> 16,292,010 6.4
>>>>>>>> 17,365,230 7.3
>>>>>>>> 10,410,640 4.6
>>>>>>>> 6,320,810 1
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]40,773,710 10
>>>>>>>> 8,491,720 1.9
>>>>>>>> Dialed In
>>>>>>>> game 3 scorespts
>>>>>>>> 155,420 6.4
>>>>>>>> 194,280 7.3
>>>>>>>> 215,120 8.2
>>>>>>>> 28,770 1
>>>>>>>> 50,670 1.9
>>>>>>>> 87,080 3.7
>>>>>>>> 127,890 4.6
>>>>>>>> 129,910 5.5
>>>>>>>> 76,310 2.8
>>>>>>>> 572,330 9.1
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]660,640 10
>>>>>>>> AvengersIQ
>>>>>>>> game 4 scorespts
>>>>>>>> 80,299,190 8.2
>>>>>>>> 48,997,920 7.3
>>>>>>>> 16,155,040 5.5
>>>>>>>> 11,587,920 2.8
>>>>>>>> 16,761,100 6.4
>>>>>>>> 13,668,290 4.6
>>>>>>>> 85,939,520 9.1
>>>>>>>> 9,342,360 1
>>>>>>>> 10,382,260 1.9
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]246,590,260 10
>>>>>>>> 13,077,310 3.7
>>>>>>>> Hot Tip
>>>>>>>> game 5 scorespts
>>>>>>>> 517,700 9.1
>>>>>>>> 380,850 6.4
>>>>>>>> 352,760 5.5
>>>>>>>> 211,420 2.8
>>>>>>>> 209,800 1.9
>>>>>>>> 396,390 7.3
>>>>>>>> 322,620 4.6
>>>>>>>> 464,550 8.2
>>>>>>>> 200,180 1
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]524,090 10
>>>>>>>> 219,340 3.7
>>>>>>>> Memory Lane
>>>>>>>> game 6 scorespts
>>>>>>>> [image: ‡]359,950 10
>>>>>>>> 73,830 3.7
>>>>>>>> 166,330 8.2
>>>>>>>> 102,300 5.5
>>>>>>>> 73,650 2.8
>>>>>>>> 82,140 4.6
>>>>>>>> 103,560 6.4
>>>>>>>> 167,520 9.1
>>>>>>>> 62,940 1.9
>>>>>>>> 120,560 7.3
>>>>>>>> 47,030 1
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