<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Many games already have something for vertical slam tilts. All one has to do is adjust it to be more sensitive, and this technique will be moot. <div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 7, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Dan Reynolds via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" class="">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">if it becomes a problem, it'd be pretty easy to rig up a vertical slam tilt to stop people doing this.</div><div dir="ltr" class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 3:56 AM Steve Peck via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank" class="">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">if you try it instead of speculating you will understand how universally effective this is. I've been doing this for months.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Maybe I shouldn't have been so eager to share... Lots of naysaying and negativity based on no experimentatiom after watching a hastily recorded video</div><div dir="auto" class=""> You must love waiting minutes for a bobber to stop in the middle of a ball</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Feel free to try it, or not. I'll enjoy not having to either shut down my flow or stop nudging for minutes after a big save.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">/shrug</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 12:44 AM steve <<a href="mailto:flynnibus@yahoo.com" target="_blank" class="">flynnibus@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""></div>
<div class="">Games have variations... without good sampling you're blind. I didn't say it won't work.. I said you're going blind. So you don't know if you are being effective or not, for how long, etc.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Don't worry... I'm not going to challenge your 'world first' with another world first. I feel confident enough in my engineering education. But if I find a convenient shaker... I'll give the world the first power assisted tilt stopper.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Friday, September 7, 2018, 12:37:26 AM EDT, Steve Peck <<a href="mailto:speckking@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">speckking@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155" class=""><div class=""><div class="">so it definitely works no matter how you hit it, but without seeing the bobber there's no way the technique can be known to work? Which is it?<div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">I'll look forward to your video stopping a bobber in 15 seconds hitting the side of the cab instead. And somehow being preferable as far as noise/disruption.</div></div><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155yqt3289642840" id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155yqt29235"><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155gmail_extra"><br clear="none" class=""><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155gmail_quote">On Sep 7, 2018 12:31 AM, "steve" <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:flynnibus@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">flynnibus@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""><blockquote class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155quoted-text"><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""></div>
<div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class="">><span class=""><span class="">1a - you sure the direction of the vibrations is irrelevant? you did the maths?</span></span></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><span class=""><span class=""><br clear="none" class=""></span></span></div></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Because I know you aren't getting any vertical movement... you are banging a solid cabinet with solid legs into a solid floor. You are not getting vertical displacement unless you are bending the legs, or bouncing off the floor. So the fact you are hitting downward... is irrelevant.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Banging the cabinet simply causing it to vibrate... in nearly all directions chaotically. And the effect works because of the rattling of the tilt hanger and tilt rod creating all kinds of extra movements and contacts... that work to disrupt the pivot contact and introduces rattle at the contact which kills the stable pendulum mount. </font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Take a newton's craddle toy and vibrate the table it's on.. you'll find it's very ineffective and dies off quickly. Or as everyone who ever skated as a kid knows... spin a worn out bearing and find it spins less efficiently than one with tighter tolerances. </font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">It doesn't have to do with the direction of movement, but the lack of steady contact combined with vibration leads to chaotic movement that kills the kinetic energy of the pendulum. Which is why I said a dildo attached to the cabinet would do effectively the same thing. You just need enough amplitude in the waves to disrupt the tilt contact point. And since it's just hanging there by gravity with nothing holding them tightly together.. it's easy to do.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Signed...</font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Science</font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></font></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div style="font-size:16px;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div>
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 11:37:59 PM EDT, Steve Peck <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:speckking@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">speckking@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">1a - you sure the direction of the vibrations is irrelevant? you did the maths? cause i'd bet doing this along the plane which the bobber swings has the potential to increase or decrease the swing<br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">1b - my hits are going through the vertical 'spine' of the side rails. this isnt handling them off the game. they dont flex when doing this and the glass isn't really even moving<br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">2 - i figured this out before ever confirming by looking. it works every time. pretty easy to tell - double danger, do this, have confidence to do a slap save less than 30s later. if you tried it you would know how reliable it is instead of speculating<br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">3 - how is it so disruptive? it can be done in normal play space and isn't that loud. <br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">and for Joe - if it hurts, you're doing it too hard and/or with the wrong part of your hand. really i recommend the heel of the palm and the speed/force of an enthusiastic clap or so.<br clear="none" class=""></div></div><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575yqt3320251924" id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575yqt84877"><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575gmail_extra"><br clear="none" class=""><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:27 PM, steve <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a shape="rect" href="mailto:flynnibus@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">flynnibus@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""><blockquote class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""></div>
<div class="">1a - The downward movement isn't the key. It's the vibrations. Its why you hit fast, not slow and big</div><div class="">1b - The side rails are thin and often poorly supported behind depending on the fit of the trim and glass. If you've ever handled them off a game, you'd see how easy it is to bend or crease them.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">2 - Hindsight is 20/20... aka when you can confirm it by peeking</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">3 - My comment isn't purely about the noise. Plus, with games with looser glass, it will be an bigger issue.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">Go get something like a feedback motor... or d-cell battery operated toy you'd find in a sex shop... and hold it against the cabinet. I bet you find the same result as long as the motor shakes enough for the energy to get to the tilt mount. Play with the speeds... and you'll see how quickly you can kill the movement.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div>
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 11:20:03 PM EDT, Steve Peck <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:speckking@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">speckking@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class="">1 - how are you going to hit straight down through the side of the
cabinet while hitting wood? how are you going to dent a side rail with
the fleshy side of your fist or your palm?</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">2 - it works. Well.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">3 - maybe, but again the video makes it seem much louder than it really is in person. since a fleshy part of the hand is used it's a fairly dull/low thudding.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">regardless of how sustained this is you're never, ever going to hurt a machine doing it. i really doubt a bare hand could do anything to a side rail even if you're trying but the technique doesnt require that much force - it's all about inducing vibration on the axis that runs vertically through the bobber.<br clear="none" class=""></div>
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<div class="">This is a solution that is far worse than the actual problem</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">1 - Hitting the rail is completely unnecessary when you could have just hit the wood cabinet and avoided the risk of denting the side rails</div><div class="">2 - In practice you can't tell if its working or not... so you can go banging along blindly</div><div class="">3 - It's very disruptive to people around you</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">While it may be less force than nudging... you don't nudge for 10-30 seconds consequently. </div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">I wouldn't recommend you do this as a practice.</div><div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div>
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 10:50:48 PM EDT, Steve Peck via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764" class=""><div class=""><div class="">oh it's also not as loud in person as it seems in the video</div><br clear="none" class=""><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764yqt5025986760" id="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764yqt35949"><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 10:47 PM Steve Peck <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:speckking@gmail.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">speckking@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></div><blockquote class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">it doesn't take that much force. Certainly less than standard nudging and not in a way that could ever hurt a machine.<div class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="">You bet I'm doing this for 15 seconds in comp rather than waiting 3 min for a bobber to stop and I doubt there's any rule against such a thing.</div></div><br clear="none" class=""><div class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 10:44 PM eric schoch via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></div><blockquote class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class=""><div class=""></div>
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018, 9:59:24 PM EDT, Dave Hubbard via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:
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On 9/6/2018 9:36 PM, Colin Horner via FSPA wrote:<br clear="none" class="">
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Is there anything that would convince you to "give up" that
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Josh Jurgensen via FSPA <a shape="rect" class="m_-2207956903307389060m_5790075171388885934m_-7669334169806573307ydpaf504938yiv5780950155m_-5061208659893301077ydpc3bcb78ayiv9826631575m_-2442588129843634822ydpfdb648d7yiv1699261738m_2183231521632663349ydpfa9cc1d7yiv3084313764m_-1494429727497297472m_-1998405215050476797ydp698a9d29yiv4518761912m_4402492147827168181moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank"><fspa@fspazone.org></a> wrote:<br clear="none" class="">
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<div class="">If this 'video proof' turns out to just be a Rick
astley clip, I'm going to run the risk of getting expelled from
all FSPA activities just to slam tilt any machine you're
playing. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 7:56 PM Steve Peck via FSPA
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<div class="">sounds like it really is a new discovery. i'll make a
video when i can.</div>
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<div class="">it's a bare handed nudging technique that should work
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Rare earth magnet on the bottom of the
cabinet?</div>
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<div class="">Hey all,</div>
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<div class="">I might have discovered a previously
unknown pinball technique. Not sure what
to do with the info. <br clear="none" class="">
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<div class="">I need to make a video to demonstrate,
but first thing is I want to make sure
it's not already known</div>
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<div class="">so does anyone know of a way to
reliably, consistently, and quickly stop a
tilt bobber swinging from normal playing
conditions outside the cabinet? </div>
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