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<div>This is why we always tell players it's YOUR responsibility to verify your turn and position. This removes any ambiguity. </div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, December 13, 2018, 4:24:06 PM EST, Steve Peck via FSPA <fspa@fspazone.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>>Carlos was playing, drained, and told Mark that it was his turn</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>(I am asking from a rules understanding perspective only) is there any penalty for Carlos in this situation?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>if not - sounds hypothetically exploitable. of course someone exploiting it would probably raise awareness thus making exploiting it ineffective <br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116gmail_quote"><div class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116yqt0708875398" id="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116yqt65082"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 3:21 PM Joe Kosack via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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Alright. I’m going to nip this in the bud right now.
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<div>Bad Girls has a feature that if a player has cruddy game and the ball drains quickly on ball 3, they get a ball save called a “Scratch Shot.”</div>
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<div>Carlos was playing, drained, and told Mark that it was his turn. Mark was not necessarily watching the machine, and did not notice that the bonus did not count down and that it wasn’t his turn. Mark plunged, and then everyone saw Carlos’ score going
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<div>This is something that happens from time to time in pinball. Hell, it happened to me this season for the first time in 10 years! </div>
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<div>However, I will not sit idly by and watch one of my players attack another player on here, especially when they were trying to calm you down and help you understand what happened last night. Mark, this line of conversation here is OVER. If you have any
problems, you can send them directly to me.<br clear="none">
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On Dec 13, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mark Whipple via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">Dave,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">Really. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">When you get a zero because the machine malfunctions that helps …….. or where you really not paying that much attention! Stick to your “ A “ division and don’t make comments when you aren’t aware of what really happened! I tried talking
to you about what happened with the machine and all you could do was grill me like I had no idea what was happening when I approached the machine. That machine somehow decided to give player 2 another ball and I get disqualified because of it. A few people
have told me that has happened before where a person gets another ball for an unknown reason.
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">Mark <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa-bounces@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fspa-bounces@fspazone.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Hubbard via FSPA<br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:04 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> The Free State Pinball Association <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> Dave Hubbard <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dave.hubbard@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dave.hubbard@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FSPA] VBH Quick Results<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">Wow, 19 points! We were just talking about this before playoffs last night, that we couldn't recall anyone ever getting a perfect 20 in the playoffs. So close!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"> --- Dave<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:44 AM Joe Kosack via FSPA <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">1) Dave Hubbard--16 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">2) Elliott Keith--10 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">3) Scott Sidley--7 points (wins tiebreaker)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">4) Joe Kosack--7 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">1) Rob Thomas--17 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">2) Todd Yoder--11 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">3) Rich Achterberg--6 points (wins tiebreaker)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">4) William Wulf--6 points<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">1) Mike Oehler--19 points!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">2) Mark Whipple--7 points (wins three way tiebreaker)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">3) Carlos Velez--7 points (wins h2h with Bob)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="ydp384fb1e6yiv9596540116MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Full results will hopefully go out this weekend when I have some down time from work. Congrats to everyone who made the playoffs, and sorry to those who had to wait for Monster Bash! Week 0 is
January 23!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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