<div dir="auto">Let’s remove the average ladder position part of the calculation if it doesn’t matter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just make it based on rankings.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 5:34 PM steve via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">><span style="color:rgb(38,40,42);font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"> it's just the magical wonder of Effective Points without preplays for it to hide behind.</span></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">No, it's actually more about the wonders of what happens when you have multiple things going on concurrently... You have a player drop, you have the number of 4 player groups changing, AND the fun of the 3 player group vs 4 player group boundary, and effective points.</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">This is more about the way the groups look AFTER ladder movement and a change in group makeup. </div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">People get predisposed to believe the simplifications we memorize are the real rules.. they aren't :) Players don't actually move between groups each week... they move up and down the ladder. Groups are formed last... after everything else. </div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">So when people just focus on groups, they often get really confused when the group scheme changes.</div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Ideas like 'freeze the player so they don't change groups' are not practical methods because they assume groups are fixed - they are not. The player's ladder movement is done after each match... Groups are drawn up based on the ladder - not necessarily last week's groups were.</div></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">There is alot of churn going into week 3 because the Groupings changed when we dropped one player. 3 4player groups instead of 4 of them.</div></div></div></div><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">-Steve</div></div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 11:15:44 AM EDT, Rob Wintler-Cox via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:
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</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think this is anything new, it's just the magical wonder of Effective Points without preplays for it to hide behind.<br></div></div></div>
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