<div dir="ltr">Cut off is when league is over and there's no games to be played.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:47 PM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">How about the ones that arrive another 2 minutes past that? And then another 2 minutes? Etc. when do you cut it off? At some point there’s a cutoff. Set the time as appropriately as possible. You could say check in time is 7:15, but you can arrive as late as 7:25, but then why not just say check in time is 7:25?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Steve </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:43 PM J McLaugh via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Honestly, as a relatively new player, I expected that the groups were made once we showed up and if I'm late without notification, I'm out. Several other newbies think the same thing. I love the drop 2 rule and agree with Steve's idea...especially since new people think this is the way it is already. Regularly players would need to get used to showing up on time or texting to get the extra 15 minutes. You could also just make it texting the division leaders
to get the 15-minute clemency so there aren't so many options or things the division leaders need to check to get players' statuses. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:55 AM Joe P. Said via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I agree with Steve's thinking.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:44 AM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I like these ideas and agree that drop 2 doesn't seem compatible with our current format, but no big changes can be made this season. If next season we adopt a groups are formed based on who shows up approach, it seems to me there has to be a hard cutoff for when you can show up, and that includes no 15 minutes if you let them know ahead of time rule - what if you then don't show up in time, then we have a missing player again. So it seems to me the groups have to be formed with who is actually present at a set time, Probably we require everyone to check in 15 minutes prior to league start (or however much time early is needed) to show they are here. If you don't check in on time, you get 0s.<div><br></div><div>Steve</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:16 AM Elliott Keith via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Even though I had to drop out of MOM's league this season due to personal stuff, I felt the need to chime in with a 'simple' solution. <div><br></div><div>Pretty much every other league I've played in besides FSPA had a drop 2 format, with no headache. The difference with FSPA seems to be that you guys try to 'pre-make' your groups of 3, which obviously causes scrambling when people don't show. The 'drop 2' and 'pre-made groups' just don't seem compatible to me. Most all other leagues randomly dole out groups at the start of the night, and Crabtowne's league had a 'division split' halfway through so you'd play with people somewhat around your skill level.</div><div><br></div><div>My solution idea is that instead of trying to 'pre-make' groups, why not just keep track of ladder position? Like, after confirming who's not there, the top three present are group 1, next three group 2, etc. all the way down, with the last group being a 4 or 2 if necessary. Keeps the similar skill level thing going, and seems pretty easy to implement, since you guys keep track of that anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Just my two cents. Hope to be back in a league next season, and happy 4th!</div><div><br></div><div>-Elliott</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:57 AM Rob Wintler-Cox via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel Northover <<a href="mailto:northovr@verizon.net" target="_blank">northovr@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Just ribbing you Rob your doing a awesome job </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>After last week my ribs are pretty sore. ;) <br></div></div></div>
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