<div dir="ltr">This is why I don't like the two drop-two method, unless I misunderstood the rule. It can unfairly give a lesser player the advantage, once the two lowest scores are dropped. Below is an example of what I mean, the highlighted scores are the two lowest for each player. <div><table cellspacing="0" border="0" style="font-family:"Liberation Sans";font-size:x-small"><colgroup width="67"></colgroup><colgroup span="3" width="85"></colgroup><colgroup width="94"></colgroup><colgroup span="9" width="85"></colgroup><colgroup width="65"></colgroup><colgroup width="55"></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="17" align="center" valign="middle" style="font-family:"Liberation Sans""><b></b></td></tr></tbody></table></div> Player-1 is the better player with more points and a higher average before the drop, but afterwards they're the worse. <div><br></div><div>
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<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" colspan="14" align="center" valign="middle"><b>Points by Meet</b></td>
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<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" height="17" align="center"><b>Player</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -1</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -2</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -3</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -4</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -5</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -6</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -7</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -8</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -9</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Meet -10</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="left"><b>Total Points</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>Average</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" colspan="2" align="center"><b>2 Lowest Scores</b></td>
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<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" height="17" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">One</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>80</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">8</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">8</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">8</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>64</b></td>
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<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" height="18" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">Two</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">9</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">7</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">4</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">10</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">6</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">12</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">0</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>72</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">7.2</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">4</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">0</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>68</b></td>
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<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" height="18" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">Three</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">10</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">6</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">2</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">15</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">7</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">10</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFA6"><font face="Liberation Serif">4</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><font face="Liberation Serif">8</font></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>78</b></td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">7.8</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">2</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center">4</td>
<td style="border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Liberation Sans"" align="center"><b>72</b></td>
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</tbody></table><div><table cellspacing="0" border="0" style="font-family:"Liberation Sans";font-size:x-small"><colgroup width="67"></colgroup><colgroup span="3" width="85"></colgroup><colgroup width="94"></colgroup><colgroup span="9" width="85"></colgroup><colgroup width="65"></colgroup><colgroup width="55"></colgroup><tbody><tr><td height="17" align="center" valign="middle" style="font-family:"Liberation Sans""></td><td colspan="15" align="center" valign="middle" style="font-family:"Liberation Sans""><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Joe P. Said via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Wei-Hwa, thats the ideal way to do it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Also, people join league to play not to skip. The incentive is friends and social and competition, not to avoid being penalized. Drop-2 lowers stress which makes it more enjoyable but doesn’t remove any competition elements.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:31 PM Wei-Hwa Huang via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:47 PM frederick butts via FSPA <<a href="mailto:fspa@fspazone.org" target="_blank">fspa@fspazone.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I understand why FSPA uses groups, however I have played in leagues where the match ups were random. As in they were not set until everyone was there and we knew who was playing. <div>If making sure you keep the better players together for competition then keep groups but still make them random.<br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div>Over here in the Bay Area Pinball Association we don't create the groups until we know who has shown up, but they aren't random -- basically we sort everyone by how well they did last week and make groups based on that ordering.</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Wei-Hwa Huang, <a href="mailto:onigame@gmail.com" target="_blank">onigame@gmail.com</a><br>-----------------------------------------------------------<br>"Where are all the time travellers?" -- generalizing the Fermi Paradox to four dimensions</div></div>
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