[FSPA] FSPA: MOM's Organic Pinball Results for 09/17/2018 (Meet #1)

[steve]

Ties are already decided by commonly played games which is more fair.
The purpose of effective points is to ensure players do not articially drop in the ladder.  Doing things to push them down kinda defeats the purpose.
Think of it this way... imagine bath is absent for two weeks and without effective points he would drop two groups down.  Now, for the next two weeks, everyone in those two groups would have to play a player well above their skill level... meaning likely 5-7 players impacted.  Effective points is the system that prevents that.  
Moving up hurts your handicapping.  Moving down improves it.
Effective points is two per game as it is the average.  Their impact should be roughly in the middle to neutral.  In the case of your tie... Tim scored better than you in 2/3 games.  Why wouldn’t him moving up be in line with that?

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018, 7:18 AM, Stephanie Traub via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Another thing to consider is maybe, such as in this case, if it comes down to a tiebreaker (I had 13 pts and Tim had 11, 13 with the effective points), the person using effective points would lose the tiebreaker and would stay in the group. That would be more fair. 

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:28 PM Stephanie Traub <stephsharer at gmail.com> wrote:

Now that you say that i bet it will happen to me  and I’m totally blaming it on this one thing! 😂
Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it! 
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:21 PM Joe Schober via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

Stephanie wrote...


Based on how i read the standings as they are submitted  and published to IFPA, final league ranking is based on group order.  So if, say, league ended today, Rob WC (as an example) would be above me, even though he only got 3 points yesterday, because he is in a higher group.  So that's why i'd consider it an advantage.  No?


Not really correct.  Final league ranking submitted to IFPA/WPPR is based on league points within division -- so all A players stacked in order of league points earned, then all the B players stacked in order of league points earned, etc.  So if league ended today, it'd be a single division (because divisions aren't established until a minimum number of weeks elapse), and the WPPR results would be submitted exactly in the order shown in the "Overall Standings" table, with you way above Rob.
What you're probably thinking of: It is true that division assignments are based on your average group (more accurately, your average ladder position) across the middle 6 weeks of the season, so there is some small but non-zero chance that getting kicked up a group due to effective points could be just enough to nudge someone up a division.  Not saying that it *never* happens, but I suspect it's pretty unusual... and if margins are that close, it's probably just as easy to point to any number of games over the course of the season where a modest number of machine points one way or the other would have been enough to swing things.
--Joe
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