[FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent

Sun Feb 24 23:50:10 EST 2019

Well one data point is worthless, but I was a single buyer that refreshed
at exactly 12:00, and I was able to secure a ticket.

      --- Dave

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:23 PM Jonathan Williams via FSPA <
fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:

> If the success rate was as low as 1 in 5, that would be what, a 67% chance
> of success for the 5-team and 0.03% for the 5 single buyers all making it?
> With those odds you'd be crazy not to join a ticket buying alliance.
> Hopefully it wasn't quite that bad. I wonder how many people actually tried
> to buy tickets in the first few minutes.
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 5:29 PM Deb Kapke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
>> It’s an interesting idea if ShowClix put a priority on 5-ticket carts
>> over 1-ticket carts. (I’d be curious if that were true.)
>>
>> But I’d guess it just *feels* like more 5-ticket carts got through.
>>
>> 5 people coordinate to purchase 5 tickets as a group.
>>
>> 5 individuals trying for a single ticket.
>>
>> Suppose 1 in 5 visitors get to add tickets to a cart and purchase. So 1
>> of the group gets through and is able to purchase 5 tickets. 1 of the
>> individuals gets through to purchase 1 ticket. 4 remaining individuals
>> don’t get through. Still a 1 in 5 success rate.
>>
>> Strategy and skill combined with luck! Almost like ... pinball. Who knew?
>>
>> Not sure that 5-ticket groups is ideal myself, but it does allow for
>> families or travel mates who want to go together.
>>
>> The eBay option is really interesting. But I’d hate to see it all come
>> down to who is willing to pay more. I could maybe see that for a handful of
>> spots though.
>>
>> Deb
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Kevin Stone via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding VIP passes – EBAY!!!  They are a sponsor after all, right?
>> That would be the ideal way to sell VIP spots and raise a ton more money.
>> You might also consider putting up another batch of 50-100 regular tickets
>> on EBAY after VIP are sold.  This would directly tie in ticket sales to
>> primary sponsor, win-win-win for those willing to pay more to guarantee a
>> spot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Identify more tournaments that can be provided an option to buy a ticket,
>> e.g. circuit event winners, SCS state champions, and other large scale
>> tournaments.  This would provide a method for the ‘top rated’ players to
>> get a ‘satellite’ spot instead of just making them a direct priority as
>> someone else mentioned, yet at the same time provide other players the
>> opportunity to snag one of those, e.g. as a State Champion.  Even if IFPA
>> or the state prize pool has to pay for the entry, it is worth gold to the
>> player that wins it.  That just makes SCS state’s and circuit event
>> tournaments worth a lot more to the player, and for once it has nothing to
>> do with money or WPPRs, but ability to snag the most coveted ticket in
>> pinball.  Maybe consider some other unique tournaments around the country
>> as well, like the Pinholics Anonymous Pintervention Circuit Championship
>> (got to plug it, lol).
>>
>>
>>
>> Even though I benefited from the 5 player group blocks and got a ticket
>> this time, 2 ticket max is probably more reasonable and eliminates the huge
>> amount of 5 player groups that were slamming the system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, when all is done, take a look at the metrics regarding how ShowClix
>> handled 5 versus 1 ticket reservations.  Totally just an observation but it
>> seemed to me that ShowClix might have somehow within those 5 seconds put
>> priority on 5 tickets carts than 1 ticket attempts since so many 5 block
>> attempts worked and so many 1 ticket people didn’t get past that screen.
>> This is just based on what I’ve heard from those grumbling and groups that
>> had multiple people get into the cart with 5 tickets.  Would be interesting
>> to see if there was some algorithm at work that benefited groups versus
>> solo purchasers.  And I’d say this isn’t a theory just a thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FSPA [mailto:fspa-bounces at fspazone.org
>> <fspa-bounces at fspazone.org>] *On Behalf Of *Dan Reynolds via FSPA
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:58 PM
>> *To:* FSPA main discussion list
>> *Cc:* Dan Reynolds
>> *Subject:* Re: [FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> i think a 2 ticket limit would be even more fair, by the way.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dan Reynolds <
>> daniel.j.reynolds at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> there's no GREAT way to divvy up a thousand tickets between the
>> X-thousand number of people who want to go.  i'm actually pretty cool with
>> the current system -- there's a high degree of randomness -- it's almost a
>> lottery as is.  but there is some weight towards how much effort or
>> shit-togethered-ness an individual can manage.  people who go to the
>> trouble of finding out the optimal strategy and organizing a group, or
>> incessently refreshing at exactly the right time, probably want it a little
>> more, and i tihnk it's ok that they are able to improve their chances
>> slightly over people who are only semi-committed or half invested.
>> certainly it's still true that lots of extremely enthusiastic people don't
>> get in, but a lottery wouldn't solve that problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> i think the system sucks in some ways, but i doubt there's a better way
>> to do it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 7:23 PM Mark Steinman via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Open question for the FSPA.  Would you prefer this land rush style of
>> signups or a lottery?
>>
>>
>>
>> mhs
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>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> That would be a heck of a long shot if they had an extra ticket with your
>> name on it.   Only way to buy extras is to have player info ready.
>> Optimal strategy was no great secret.   Have some friends.   Get ready to
>> log in and put the max of 5 tickets in your shopping cart.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gilles did it for me last year and took care of a few folks this year.
>>
>>
>>
>> This was discussed on the list a few weeks ago, amid speculation that it
>> would only take a minute to sell out.   See also:
>>
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>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>
>> *From: *Paul Liam McGlone <dwifairfaxatty at gmail.com>
>>
>> *Subject: Re: [FSPA] Pinburgh tix go on sale 2/23 Noon!*
>>
>> *Date: *February 11, 2019 at 6:20:08 PM EST
>>
>> *To: *FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Last year, it was that fast, but then tickets came back online as the 15
>> minute limit expired.
>>
>> Imagine a bunch of geeks (no, not us) sitting around with multiple
>> devices trying to jump onto a queue.
>>
>> So, then it says “please wait” and folks have  2 or 3 of those going.
>>   Then they get what they want and go back to playing pinball, as
>> originally scheduled.   So, the other devices may have tickets held in the
>> cart until the 15 minute mark, and then they go to …. Somebody in line OR
>> somebody trying to get in line.
>>
>> I’m sure it is a “whole different thing” this year, but it probably
>> doesn’t end in a minute.
>>
>>
>> That shouldn’t happen this year.  If all goes as planned, leftover
>> tickets will be released to the waitlist in order.
>>
>> mhs
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Steve Ryback via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Long shot here but did anyone get any extra tickets? I was refreshing at
>> 11:59 and when I went to purchase was already sold out.  I’m on the
>> waitlist but would love if anyone had one I could purchase from them
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Ryback
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:29 PM Mark Whipple via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I was able to get in and bought 2 tickets for the main event. Thank you
>> Gregg Giblin for your assistance. I also appreciate those that sent me a
>> link to order tickets. I am so glad I was able to buy tickets this year. I
>> was #125 on waitlist last year and never got in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Mark Whipple
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FSPA <fspa-bounces+mcwhip=verizon.net at fspazone.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *Kendall Van Pool via FSPA
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 12:11 PM
>> *To:* FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> *Cc:* Kendall Van Pool <kendallvanpool at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent
>>
>>
>>
>> I am forgoing wprs because IFPA crashed.  Thanks for the idea Jonathan,
>> but I didn't want to forgo the tourney due to IFPA crashing.  I just put in
>> 111111111.  I have to guess this is going to be the case for a lot of
>> people.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:08 PM Jonathan Williams via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>> Google has it cached.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 12:05 PM Kendall Van Pool via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think we crashed if a looking for our I'd numbers.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 11:45 AM Mark Steinman via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Also, the link that says “Pinburgh 2019 Reservations etc” will become a
>> link to the waitlist.
>>
>> https://replayfx.org/competitions/pinburgh/
>>
>>
>>
>> mhs
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>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Mark Steinman via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
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>>
>> Tickets will go on sale here:
>>
>> https://www.showclix.com/event/replayfx-2019
>>
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>>
>> mhs
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>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Whipple via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I would like to buy 2 tickets for the main competition to Pinburgh. I am
>> on
>> the ReplayFX site but need more information on where to order my tickets
>> once it becomes active. Please give me a call if you have done this
>> before.
>> I am running out of time. I missed last year by seconds!!!
>>
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Mark Whipple
>> Volleyball House Player
>> 410-707-5080 cell
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