[FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent

Mon Feb 25 03:57:40 EST 2019

by my math, two data points are twice as useless.  that works out, right?
i also was a single buyer that managed to get in by refreshing somewhere
within 2 seconds of 12:00.

i happen to have a very good internet connection with low latency and i'm
using a cable, not wifi.  dunno how much that helped.

i'm sure teaming up in a group of five would have helped more than simply
winging it, but i failed to get my shit together enough to form a team.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 3:28 AM Dave Hubbard via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
wrote:

> Well one data point is worthless, but I was a single buyer that refreshed
> at exactly 12:00, and I was able to secure a ticket.
>
>       --- Dave
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 8:23 PM Jonathan Williams via FSPA <
> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>
>> If the success rate was as low as 1 in 5, that would be what, a 67%
>> chance of success for the 5-team and 0.03% for the 5 single buyers all
>> making it? With those odds you'd be crazy not to join a ticket buying
>> alliance. Hopefully it wasn't quite that bad. I wonder how many people
>> actually tried to buy tickets in the first few minutes.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 5:29 PM Deb Kapke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s an interesting idea if ShowClix put a priority on 5-ticket carts
>>> over 1-ticket carts. (I’d be curious if that were true.)
>>>
>>> But I’d guess it just *feels* like more 5-ticket carts got through.
>>>
>>> 5 people coordinate to purchase 5 tickets as a group.
>>>
>>> 5 individuals trying for a single ticket.
>>>
>>> Suppose 1 in 5 visitors get to add tickets to a cart and purchase. So 1
>>> of the group gets through and is able to purchase 5 tickets. 1 of the
>>> individuals gets through to purchase 1 ticket. 4 remaining individuals
>>> don’t get through. Still a 1 in 5 success rate.
>>>
>>> Strategy and skill combined with luck! Almost like ... pinball. Who knew?
>>>
>>> Not sure that 5-ticket groups is ideal myself, but it does allow for
>>> families or travel mates who want to go together.
>>>
>>> The eBay option is really interesting. But I’d hate to see it all come
>>> down to who is willing to pay more. I could maybe see that for a handful of
>>> spots though.
>>>
>>> Deb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Kevin Stone via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding VIP passes – EBAY!!!  They are a sponsor after all, right?
>>> That would be the ideal way to sell VIP spots and raise a ton more money.
>>> You might also consider putting up another batch of 50-100 regular tickets
>>> on EBAY after VIP are sold.  This would directly tie in ticket sales to
>>> primary sponsor, win-win-win for those willing to pay more to guarantee a
>>> spot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Identify more tournaments that can be provided an option to buy a
>>> ticket, e.g. circuit event winners, SCS state champions, and other large
>>> scale tournaments.  This would provide a method for the ‘top rated’ players
>>> to get a ‘satellite’ spot instead of just making them a direct priority as
>>> someone else mentioned, yet at the same time provide other players the
>>> opportunity to snag one of those, e.g. as a State Champion.  Even if IFPA
>>> or the state prize pool has to pay for the entry, it is worth gold to the
>>> player that wins it.  That just makes SCS state’s and circuit event
>>> tournaments worth a lot more to the player, and for once it has nothing to
>>> do with money or WPPRs, but ability to snag the most coveted ticket in
>>> pinball.  Maybe consider some other unique tournaments around the country
>>> as well, like the Pinholics Anonymous Pintervention Circuit Championship
>>> (got to plug it, lol).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Even though I benefited from the 5 player group blocks and got a ticket
>>> this time, 2 ticket max is probably more reasonable and eliminates the huge
>>> amount of 5 player groups that were slamming the system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, when all is done, take a look at the metrics regarding how
>>> ShowClix handled 5 versus 1 ticket reservations.  Totally just an
>>> observation but it seemed to me that ShowClix might have somehow within
>>> those 5 seconds put priority on 5 tickets carts than 1 ticket attempts
>>> since so many 5 block attempts worked and so many 1 ticket people didn’t
>>> get past that screen.  This is just based on what I’ve heard from those
>>> grumbling and groups that had multiple people get into the cart with 5
>>> tickets.  Would be interesting to see if there was some algorithm at work
>>> that benefited groups versus solo purchasers.  And I’d say this isn’t a
>>> theory just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* FSPA [mailto:fspa-bounces at fspazone.org
>>> <fspa-bounces at fspazone.org>] *On Behalf Of *Dan Reynolds via FSPA
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:58 PM
>>> *To:* FSPA main discussion list
>>> *Cc:* Dan Reynolds
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i think a 2 ticket limit would be even more fair, by the way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:56 PM Dan Reynolds <
>>> daniel.j.reynolds at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> there's no GREAT way to divvy up a thousand tickets between the
>>> X-thousand number of people who want to go.  i'm actually pretty cool with
>>> the current system -- there's a high degree of randomness -- it's almost a
>>> lottery as is.  but there is some weight towards how much effort or
>>> shit-togethered-ness an individual can manage.  people who go to the
>>> trouble of finding out the optimal strategy and organizing a group, or
>>> incessently refreshing at exactly the right time, probably want it a little
>>> more, and i tihnk it's ok that they are able to improve their chances
>>> slightly over people who are only semi-committed or half invested.
>>> certainly it's still true that lots of extremely enthusiastic people don't
>>> get in, but a lottery wouldn't solve that problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i think the system sucks in some ways, but i doubt there's a better way
>>> to do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 7:23 PM Mark Steinman via FSPA <
>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Open question for the FSPA.  Would you prefer this land rush style of
>>> signups or a lottery?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mhs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Paul Liam McGlone via FSPA <
>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That would be a heck of a long shot if they had an extra ticket with
>>> your name on it.   Only way to buy extras is to have player info ready.
>>> Optimal strategy was no great secret.   Have some friends.   Get ready to
>>> log in and put the max of 5 tickets in your shopping cart.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gilles did it for me last year and took care of a few folks this year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This was discussed on the list a few weeks ago, amid speculation that it
>>> would only take a minute to sell out.   See also:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Paul Liam McGlone <dwifairfaxatty at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> *Subject: Re: [FSPA] Pinburgh tix go on sale 2/23 Noon!*
>>>
>>> *Date: *February 11, 2019 at 6:20:08 PM EST
>>>
>>> *To: *FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last year, it was that fast, but then tickets came back online as the 15
>>> minute limit expired.
>>>
>>> Imagine a bunch of geeks (no, not us) sitting around with multiple
>>> devices trying to jump onto a queue.
>>>
>>> So, then it says “please wait” and folks have  2 or 3 of those going.
>>>   Then they get what they want and go back to playing pinball, as
>>> originally scheduled.   So, the other devices may have tickets held in the
>>> cart until the 15 minute mark, and then they go to …. Somebody in line OR
>>> somebody trying to get in line.
>>>
>>> I’m sure it is a “whole different thing” this year, but it probably
>>> doesn’t end in a minute.
>>>
>>>
>>> That shouldn’t happen this year.  If all goes as planned, leftover
>>> tickets will be released to the waitlist in order.
>>>
>>> mhs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Steve Ryback via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Long shot here but did anyone get any extra tickets? I was refreshing at
>>> 11:59 and when I went to purchase was already sold out.  I’m on the
>>> waitlist but would love if anyone had one I could purchase from them
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Ryback
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:29 PM Mark Whipple via FSPA <
>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was able to get in and bought 2 tickets for the main event. Thank you
>>> Gregg Giblin for your assistance. I also appreciate those that sent me a
>>> link to order tickets. I am so glad I was able to buy tickets this year. I
>>> was #125 on waitlist last year and never got in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Mark Whipple
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* FSPA <fspa-bounces+mcwhip=verizon.net at fspazone.org> *On Behalf
>>> Of *Kendall Van Pool via FSPA
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2019 12:11 PM
>>> *To:* FSPA main discussion list <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> *Cc:* Kendall Van Pool <kendallvanpool at gmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FSPA] Buying tickets for Pinburgh - Urgent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am forgoing wprs because IFPA crashed.  Thanks for the idea Jonathan,
>>> but I didn't want to forgo the tourney due to IFPA crashing.  I just put in
>>> 111111111.  I have to guess this is going to be the case for a lot of
>>> people.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:08 PM Jonathan Williams via FSPA <
>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Google has it cached.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 12:05 PM Kendall Van Pool via FSPA <
>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we crashed if a looking for our I'd numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019, 11:45 AM Mark Steinman via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, the link that says “Pinburgh 2019 Reservations etc” will become a
>>> link to the waitlist.
>>>
>>> https://replayfx.org/competitions/pinburgh/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mhs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Mark Steinman via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tickets will go on sale here:
>>>
>>> https://www.showclix.com/event/replayfx-2019
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mhs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Whipple via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I would like to buy 2 tickets for the main competition to Pinburgh. I am
>>> on
>>> the ReplayFX site but need more information on where to order my tickets
>>> once it becomes active. Please give me a call if you have done this
>>> before.
>>> I am running out of time. I missed last year by seconds!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help,
>>> Mark Whipple
>>> Volleyball House Player
>>> 410-707-5080 cell
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