[FSPA] Preplays are better

[Joe P. Said]

SLO can make changes for their location if they can't handle it.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:49 PM Matt Wycoff <mwycoff at gmail.com> wrote:

> That is an administrative nightmare for the SLO who also wants to play.
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM Joe P. Said via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Cut off is when league is over and there's no games to be played.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:47 PM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <
>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>
>>> How about the ones that arrive another 2 minutes past that? And then
>>> another 2 minutes? Etc. when do you cut it off? At some point there’s a
>>> cutoff. Set the time as appropriately as possible. You could say check in
>>> time is 7:15, but you can arrive as late as 7:25, but then why not just say
>>> check in time is 7:25?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:43 PM J McLaugh via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Honestly, as a relatively new player, I expected that the groups were
>>>> made once we showed up and if I'm late without notification, I'm out.
>>>> Several other newbies think the same thing. I love the drop 2 rule and
>>>> agree with Steve's idea...especially since new people think this is the way
>>>> it is already. Regularly players would need to get used to showing up on
>>>> time or texting to get the extra 15 minutes. You could also just make it
>>>> texting the division leaders to get the 15-minute clemency so there aren't
>>>> so many options or things the division leaders need to check to get
>>>> players' statuses.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:55 AM Joe P. Said via FSPA <
>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Steve's thinking.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:44 AM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <
>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like these ideas and agree that drop 2 doesn't seem compatible with
>>>>>> our current format, but no big changes can be made this season. If next
>>>>>> season we adopt a groups are formed based on who shows up approach, it
>>>>>> seems to me there has to be a hard cutoff for when you can show up, and
>>>>>> that includes no 15 minutes if you let them know ahead of time rule - what
>>>>>> if you then don't show up in time, then we have a missing player again. So
>>>>>> it seems to me the groups have to be formed with who is actually present at
>>>>>> a set time, Probably we require everyone to check in 15 minutes prior to
>>>>>> league start (or however much time early is needed) to show they are here.
>>>>>> If you don't check in on time, you get 0s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:16 AM Elliott Keith via FSPA <
>>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even though I had to drop out of MOM's league this season due to
>>>>>>> personal stuff, I felt the need to chime in with a 'simple' solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pretty much every other league I've played in besides FSPA had a
>>>>>>> drop 2 format, with no headache. The difference with FSPA seems to be that
>>>>>>> you guys try to 'pre-make' your groups of 3, which obviously causes
>>>>>>> scrambling when people don't show. The 'drop 2' and 'pre-made groups' just
>>>>>>> don't seem compatible to me. Most all other leagues randomly dole out
>>>>>>> groups at the start of the night, and Crabtowne's league had a 'division
>>>>>>> split' halfway through so you'd play with people somewhat around your skill
>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My solution idea is that instead of trying to 'pre-make' groups, why
>>>>>>> not just keep track of ladder position? Like, after confirming who's not
>>>>>>> there, the top three present are group 1, next three group 2, etc. all the
>>>>>>> way down, with the last group being a 4 or 2 if necessary. Keeps the
>>>>>>> similar skill level thing going, and seems pretty easy to implement, since
>>>>>>> you guys keep track of that anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just my two cents. Hope to be back in a league next season, and
>>>>>>> happy 4th!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Elliott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:57 AM Rob Wintler-Cox via FSPA <
>>>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel Northover <
>>>>>>>> northovr at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just ribbing you Rob your doing a awesome job
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After last week my ribs are pretty sore. ;)
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