[FSPA] Preplays are better

[Matt Wycoff]

That is an administrative nightmare for the SLO who also wants to play.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM Joe P. Said via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
wrote:

> Cut off is when league is over and there's no games to be played.
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:47 PM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
> wrote:
>
>> How about the ones that arrive another 2 minutes past that? And then
>> another 2 minutes? Etc. when do you cut it off? At some point there’s a
>> cutoff. Set the time as appropriately as possible. You could say check in
>> time is 7:15, but you can arrive as late as 7:25, but then why not just say
>> check in time is 7:25?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:43 PM J McLaugh via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly, as a relatively new player, I expected that the groups were
>>> made once we showed up and if I'm late without notification, I'm out.
>>> Several other newbies think the same thing. I love the drop 2 rule and
>>> agree with Steve's idea...especially since new people think this is the way
>>> it is already. Regularly players would need to get used to showing up on
>>> time or texting to get the extra 15 minutes. You could also just make it
>>> texting the division leaders to get the 15-minute clemency so there aren't
>>> so many options or things the division leaders need to check to get
>>> players' statuses.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:55 AM Joe P. Said via FSPA <fspa at fspazone.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Steve's thinking.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:44 AM Stephen Jonke via FSPA <
>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like these ideas and agree that drop 2 doesn't seem compatible with
>>>>> our current format, but no big changes can be made this season. If next
>>>>> season we adopt a groups are formed based on who shows up approach, it
>>>>> seems to me there has to be a hard cutoff for when you can show up, and
>>>>> that includes no 15 minutes if you let them know ahead of time rule - what
>>>>> if you then don't show up in time, then we have a missing player again. So
>>>>> it seems to me the groups have to be formed with who is actually present at
>>>>> a set time, Probably we require everyone to check in 15 minutes prior to
>>>>> league start (or however much time early is needed) to show they are here.
>>>>> If you don't check in on time, you get 0s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:16 AM Elliott Keith via FSPA <
>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Even though I had to drop out of MOM's league this season due to
>>>>>> personal stuff, I felt the need to chime in with a 'simple' solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pretty much every other league I've played in besides FSPA had a drop
>>>>>> 2 format, with no headache. The difference with FSPA seems to be that you
>>>>>> guys try to 'pre-make' your groups of 3, which obviously causes scrambling
>>>>>> when people don't show. The 'drop 2' and 'pre-made groups' just don't seem
>>>>>> compatible to me. Most all other leagues randomly dole out groups at the
>>>>>> start of the night, and Crabtowne's league had a 'division split' halfway
>>>>>> through so you'd play with people somewhat around your skill level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My solution idea is that instead of trying to 'pre-make' groups, why
>>>>>> not just keep track of ladder position? Like, after confirming who's not
>>>>>> there, the top three present are group 1, next three group 2, etc. all the
>>>>>> way down, with the last group being a 4 or 2 if necessary. Keeps the
>>>>>> similar skill level thing going, and seems pretty easy to implement, since
>>>>>> you guys keep track of that anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my two cents. Hope to be back in a league next season, and happy
>>>>>> 4th!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Elliott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:57 AM Rob Wintler-Cox via FSPA <
>>>>>> fspa at fspazone.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel Northover <
>>>>>>> northovr at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just ribbing you Rob your doing a awesome job
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After last week my ribs are pretty sore. ;)
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